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opgpat
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Re: suspension

Post by opgpat »

sharonbar wrote:thanks for your support ips yes i would like to award a serious warning an told if i breech with in a year they can sack me i dont understand some comments people are saying i havent been the first or last for ghost overtime an it was only one hour whats that around 5.50 an im gonna lose my job for that i deliver all mail each day

Sharon
- did you go into work early on any day in the week that you booked the 1hr OT?
- did you work past your finish time any day in the week that you booked the 1hr OT?

If yes, then tell them this 1hr OT was for comming in early/or working past your finish time that week.
sharonbar
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Re: suspension

Post by sharonbar »

here is what i did i was followed from 6th oct till 9th no overtime claimed home a few days early when the mail is light signed in at 10/2 as thats my hours followed again the wk afterno ot claimed home agin early twice 19th oct till 22nd half hour overtime claimed home again early well there was no mail with strikes 26th 30th 1 hour overtime claimed home early on friday but went in early as hubby was home for kids went in just after 8 but signed in 10/2 as they are my hours some days i use my hubbys van to go to work but them sneeky gets have came to my home to see if my car is here if not they drive down the st i live 20mins from our office an its my own falt i dont take meal relife so where is my justice thats what i did all off october so really its one an a half hours i have a clean record no warnings never been off since maternity i even work when they are stuck is my case feally a serious offence an why am i suspended a warning would of been enough am i still a gonner as they said some days the could find me something else hardly when the rest are van duties
mandelsons_toenail
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Re: suspension

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

right im trying to understand

In our office
There is one round which is a 35 hour round though its no bigger than any of the 30 hour rounds

The guys who do this 35 hr round on the 35hr man d/o claim an hour
Why should he get 35hours or an hour extra a day and them not

2.

If your on a 20 hour contract

eg 10-2 you are entitled to a paid 20minute break

I dont see you have done anything wrong??

Or have i missed the point, if a full timer gets a set no of hours for a round, so should a pt er!
opgpat
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Re: suspension

Post by opgpat »

Sharon you are due meal relief everyday and if you don't take it during your shift you add the time on after your delivery finishes. So you didn't go home early - you were on your meal relief.

You have also gone in almost 2 hrs early on one day?

You need to write this down to show them that you were owed the 1 hr OTand possibly more than you have claimed for.

You have done nothing wrong except maybe you have booked OT on the wrong day by mistake. That is NOT a disciplinary offence.

See your Union rep and tell him you were owed 1hr OT possibly more from missed meal relief and comming in early. He should talk to the managers for you.
shadow
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Re: suspension

Post by shadow »

she's just worried.
sharonbar
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Re: suspension

Post by sharonbar »

excuss me jimmycarr im not stupid im just very worried i have 2 small children to care for how would you like to be suspnded an not know the outcome :cry
bitchface
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Re: suspension

Post by bitchface »

sharron an opg...please pay attention...ITS FRAUD PLAIN AND SIMPLE.it isnt a mistake ,it isnt common practise.it isnt acceptable just because others do it..

its FRAUD
Pat Ostman
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Re: suspension

Post by Pat Ostman »

bitchface wrote:sharron an opg...please pay attention...ITS FRAUD PLAIN AND SIMPLE.it isnt a mistake ,it isnt common practise.it isnt acceptable just because others do it..

its FRAUD
NOT if she did not use her meal relief allocation.. In the worse case scenario, she might have deliberately tried to defraud the company 90 mins but the fact is she didn't because her allowances were not included. She did not gain financially and she did not take anything from the company when you add up the sums. Truth be told, when you go back her entire time, how much meal relief has she not claimed for?

Also seeing a workers transport (not an official RM Van) parked outside her house is not proof. THEY NEED PROOF!

You seem very harsh on the girl, she has not been sacked yet and not had the result of the fact finding interview. Until then she must be considered innocent and with the information provided (and I can only go on that) she should not be sacked.

That's how I read it.
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Pat Ostman
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Re: suspension

Post by Pat Ostman »

Jimmy Carr`s laugh wrote:The facts are we dont know the full story and shes not explaining it at all well. SHE NEEDS TO SPEAK TO HER REP - END OF

ps I know your worried , I would be, but ive seen people sacked for a lot less. All this following bollux will probably be lies, theyre good at that. But not working with you or knowing anything about the type of managers you have etc its impossible to say what will happen.

Just dont bank on the fact that you have kids, etc ,to mean anything coz theyre very very heartless, its all about their bonus`s, end of argument.

I fully understand where your coming from , having kids and a £1600 a week mortgage myself, and having had 5 mates sacked over nothing in the last 18 months, but every office/manager/dom/reps are totally different and have different rules and qualities-

for the last time

SPEAK TO YOUR REP
Totally agree but people do come on hear for views it helps them sleep! Trust me I wanted to phone my rep up hundreds of times when I was stitched up. Opinions do not hurt as long as they are stated as such.
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bitchface
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Re: suspension

Post by bitchface »

WELL ITS TRUE,YOU CANNOT EDUCATE BACON.
she was home early plus booked an hour overtime.
she is on a 4 hour day.
please stop trying to find wriggle room where there isnt any.neither the manager royal mail or any other fair minded person could care less how many breaks shes not booked in her working life .its to be booked day by day.

i cant book 20 hours overtime one day and say "yeah well, thats for all the breaks ive missed since i started here"
its fraud plain and simple
and then to blame work mates for "snitching,grassing you up"clearly not everyone does it.
if they followed you home to check its clearly not a one off.
the managers a w****r for suspending you.im sure he is a w****r but not for suspending you.
pathetic argument

if you want honest advise.not hot air blown up your arse,by the daydreamers this is it..
use your suspended time (payed)to find other employment
i garentee as youve told us,youve no chance in hell
dwainedibbly
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Re: suspension

Post by dwainedibbly »

how can you claim overtime before going out?.....thats mental
sharonbar
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Re: suspension

Post by sharonbar »

bitchface as ipb say ive only came on here for advice so please keep your nasty remarks to yourself you must be a goody 2 shoes so i want no more bad feedback from you how would you like to be in my position 8wks before xmas an i cant find any jobs here so shut up
fmrPOSTIE
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Re: suspension

Post by fmrPOSTIE »

Jimmy Carr`s laugh wrote:
1 lad slapped an ex royal mail employee in a nightclub for taunting his girlfriend, about 15 witness`s said he had it coming and it was only a tap. Lad who got hit complained - result postman, 15 yrs in ,SACKED
Heard about this one a while ago, sounds like cobblers to me. what was the charge and how does this relate to Royal Mail?

sharonbar - if you purposely claimed for 1hr o/t knowing that you would never work it then it doesnt look good. HOWEVER, none of us no the full facts, a crap time for this to occur regardless of who's at fault but if it doesnt look good after the fact finding int, then i'd resign?????
Pat Ostman
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Re: suspension

Post by Pat Ostman »

bitchface wrote:WELL ITS TRUE,YOU CANNOT EDUCATE BACON.
Regardless of the outcome, one thing is certain. You really are a bitch.
dwainedibbly wrote:how can you claim overtime before going out?.....thats mental
Not quite, you can estimate it. You can also put down 'belated' overtime for meal relief not taken during the week. Fact.
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Re: suspension

Post by clashcityrocker »

[quote="Jimmy Carr`s laugh"], having kids and a £1600 a week mortgage myself,

HOW MUCH?How can you afford that on a postmans wage?Where is it ?
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