Godric wrote:latest Com Res poll 48% for indyref2 44% against and 8% undecided
YouGov
SNP on 51% up 3%
Tories on 24% down 1/%
Labour 14% down 1%
Lib Dems 6% unchanged
Scottish Green 4% up 1%
... so the pro yes parties are on 55%
May knows she can't win the game changer is the 200K Eu citizens and the 350K 16-17 year olds from 2014 the most pro EU group that is why Theresa May and the unionists are absolutely petrified
Is that a poll of readers of the National or from the SNP conference in Aberdeen, here's two done just last week..
Panelbase survey (remember this is SNPs choice pollster):
Yes - 44%
No - 56%
51% don't want referendum
13% think Indy Scotland better off
Godric wrote:latest Com Res poll 48% for indyref2 44% against and 8% undecided
YouGov
SNP on 51% up 3%
Tories on 24% down 1/%
Labour 14% down 1%
Lib Dems 6% unchanged
Scottish Green 4% up 1%
... so the pro yes parties are on 55%
May knows she can't win the game changer is the 200K Eu citizens and the 350K 16-17 year olds from 2014 the most pro EU group that is why Theresa May and the unionists are absolutely petrified
Is that a poll of readers of the National or from the SNP conference in Aberdeen, here's two done just last week..
Panelbase survey (remember this is SNPs choice pollster):
Yes - 44%
No - 56%
51% don't want referendum
13% think Indy Scotland better off
You Gov has 43/57 in favour of no.
Both done last week.
funny the latest one today well from Yesterday is 46% want a referendum to 42%
and SNP are now on 53%
"Vi har haft århundraden av kärlek och tillit till varandra."
You could exchange polls all day long without proving anything other than it depends what the question is, how you ask it and who you ask.
The most pointless question has to be whether the Scots want a referendum, obviously anyone who wants to keep the status quo doesn't want a referendum but neither do a lot of people who will ultimately vote yes and in the end it's not something that the Scots will have a say on so you've actually shown f**k all about the "undecided" by asking that question.
If you look at it logically the only people who wouldn't want a referendum are those (on either side) who fear the result.
="fishtank
If you look at it logically the only people who wouldn't want a referendum are those (on either side) who fear the result.
That may be true if it's only the referendum result in itself that concerns anyone, but the effects on the country, it's people and business both home and abroad for the next two years or so also need to be considered, and nothing yet shows anything positive from the continuing uncertainty.
fishtank wrote:
If you look at it logically the only people who wouldn't want a referendum are those (on either side) who fear the result.
That's pish, I reckon if we were to have another referendum within 2 months we'd still vote to remain part of the UK, and by a bigger margin, the day after and the Nats will be agitating for Indyref3.
What I want to know is Scots living outside of Scotland (like several in my office) are being denied a vote, but EU nationals etc living in Scotland can vote?? A couple who've expressed intentions to one day return have written to the Scottish Assembly and been told "no vote for you".
How in the name of Wee Jimmy Krankie is this fair?
Tman wrote:What I want to know is Scots living outside of Scotland (like several in my office) are being denied a vote, but EU nationals etc living in Scotland can vote?? A couple who've expressed intentions to one day return have written to the Scottish Assembly and been told "no vote for you".
How in the name of Wee Jimmy Krankie is this fair?
If they thought for a minute that the majority of Scots living down south would vote for separation they'd have that vote.
The Nats and Greens are being ripped a new one at Holyrood right now, it's scandalous that two days are being devoted to debate this when there is no chance of any referendum being agreed by Westminster.
fishtank wrote:
If you look at it logically the only people who wouldn't want a referendum are those (on either side) who fear the result.
That's pish, I reckon if we were to have another referendum within 2 months we'd still vote to remain part of the UK, and by a bigger margin, the day after and the Nats will be agitating for Indyref3.
That's the beauty of it, 'yes' only has to win once. The other side has to win every time
South_London_Postie wrote:Maybe I am missing something but why would Scotland want to vote for more freedom from the uk to only join the EU and has even less freedom?
For that argument to work you would have to explain without hyperbole exactly how the EU has encroached on your personal freedom. I personally can't think of a single thing in my entire life that the EU has stopped me doing.
Would they qualify for EU membership alone?
I don't know, I don't think anybody really knows and the EU isn't giving an official answer until Scotland is independent, Probably not as things stand but in the future who knows but I do know one thing for certain, In two years time we won't be in the EU whether we're in the UK or not so we can either have a slim chance alone or no chance as part of the UK.
South_London_Postie wrote:Maybe I am missing something but why would Scotland want to vote for more freedom from the uk to only join the EU and has even less freedom?
Would they qualify for EU membership alone?
The EU is just a reason for them to have another referendum, they don't really give a s**t about it, it's freedom at any cost. Most just hate the English in my experience.
all the jocks ive met didn't. got some very close mates who are jocks. me brothers wive is one.....my ex wife....maybe as far as football is concerned...then yes. but not personally.
daveyeff wrote:all the jocks ive met didn't. got some very close mates who are jocks. me brothers wive is one.....my ex wife....maybe as far as football is concerned...then yes. but not personally.
i'm talking about rabid SNP, Nationalist types bud, i'm pretty sure I've experienced more of them than you, sadly.
daveyeff wrote:all the jocks ive met didn't. got some very close mates who are jocks. me brothers wive is one.....my ex wife....maybe as far as football is concerned...then yes. but not personally.
i'm talking about rabid SNP, Nationalist types bud, i'm pretty sure I've experienced more of them than you, sadly.
Maybe you should look at your social circle bud, maybe you're mixing with the wrong people.
