FULL AGREEMENT

South East Postie · Post by **South East Postie** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:07

dongash wrote:are hayes and ward on drugs?

it would appear so. how can they defend this agreement? the document is basically everything we dont want re worded with a few bits they have managed to get in on. NO vote

rsn200 · Post by **rsn200** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:07

So we put ourselves through hardship following our unionâ€™s calls for unity and strength, only to be offered the same deal two months down the line. What a f***ing disgrace!!!

brothermagrew · Post by **brothermagrew** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:09

We have all been well and truly SOLD down the.........

Afraid it's a big NO from me.

ulster postie · Post by **ulster postie** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:09

IF this is the best deal that billy and dave could get after months of talks, and members loosing Â£100s of pounds, words fail me. THERE are to many copouts, the pension, d2ds, local agreements on flexability, later starts,monthly pay, the weak & small offices are going to be left on their own. WHY has our supposed leaders given the bosses the chance to rip up all the national agreements we have fought for and won over the years. this is a total disgrace. WE ARE BEING ASKED TO ENDORSE SOMETHING THAT HASNT EVEN BEEN AGREED, WHY HAVE THESE UNAGREED PORTIONS BEEN LEFT ASIDE TO BE DISCUSED AT A LATER DATE, I THINK ITS CALLED DEVIDE & CONQUER.
THIS C.W.U. LEADERSHIP NEEDS TO BE GIVEN A RESOUNDING KICK UP THE ASS. VOTE NO, THEN A NEW LEADERSHIP CAN BE BROUGHT IN AND TAKE UP THE FIGHT.

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS

dazzer79 · Post by **dazzer79** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:13

we have still got our early start on sat (for the time being ) does that mean we start at 5 this sat and finish at 12 .. ??? the rest is just an agreement to talk on the issues later !!!! thanks cwu 4 your strenght ....u asked 4 ours and u got it !!!!! u have let us down AGAIN !!!! goodbye union ..im out .....keep my money in my paypacket !!!

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:13

I consider this agreement a bridge to far, Never have so many been asked for so much for so little, we must fight them all the way!. :cfo & :lfo

stressed eric · Post by **stressed eric** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:13

YES

its a load of shite.
well they agree that they will put the vote to 130,000 postmen/women, but nearly everything that needs sorting will be discussed at a later date (sorry i meant you'll all be bum fecked at a later date)

its a big fat NO.
basically they've brushed it under the carpet in true Royal Mail profesionalism, and the CWU have gone for it.

wakkono · Post by **wakkono** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:15

goodbye union ..im out .....keep my money in my paypacket good quote dude i think we should all do it

dongash · Post by **dongash** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:16

well i have spotted a Â£3 a week pay rise !!! (with no strings) it's called f**k off cwu, you do not deserve the support you have had !!

Wild Rover · Post by **Wild Rover** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:17

Personally, and i haven't read all yet, if start times is a local issue now, i'd be inclined to think my area will revert back to how it was orginally. If it wasn't broke, why fix it.

Post by **dvbuk55** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:17

C'mon guys it's not all bad. Billy and Dave will be retiring at 60 with a final salary pension, and a pay increase this year of what?

Do I think the deal is crap? - yes it is undoubtedly the worst case scenario - what RM want RM get. Here we have the negotiating officers negotiating absolutely like a pair of amateurs telling the reps to "negotiate and agree locally" any changes and to treat each other with respect

Will I vote NO - No I will vote YES. Why? Because you've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em and it is time to fold 'em. Voting NO will only prolong the agony - these two aren't going to negotiate anything different because mentally they have already accepted and nothing is going to change that.

The next stage of the membership participation should be to get rid of these gravy train robbers and the quicker the better before we're standing at the gates, not on a picket, but wondering if we are going to get a days work!

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:18

stressed eric wrote:YES

its a load of shite.
well they agree that they will put the vote to 130,000 postmen/women, but nearly everything that needs sorting will be discussed at a later date (sorry i meant you'll all be bum fecked at a later date)

its a big fat NO.
basically they've brushed it under the carpet in true Royal Mail profesionalism, and the CWU have gone for it.

One word FUDGE

mak403 · Post by **mak403** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:18

a very BIG no from me but would the union support us if we wanted to go on strike again?they've already given in to these 2 :lfo :cfo pish heads,

donut · Post by **donut** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:19

WORDS FAIL ME .........I`M ABSOLUTLY DISGUSTED !!!!
WHAT A FCUKING JOKE !!!!!

I CAN`T BELIEVE THEY`VE GOT THE FRONT TO PUT THIS UP ON THE CWU WEBSITE !!

WARD & HAYES .....YOU PAIR OF FUKCING ..... GET OUT NOW BEFORE I COME AND DO THE
PAIR OF YA !!!

Spartacus · Post by **Spartacus** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:21

NEVER NEVER NEVER

MR HAYES THE MEMBERSHIP SAYS NO

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