Sick absence - after surviving a Stage 3

[norbet colon]

first time post!!

i was off with a bad back for 5 1/2 months last year and in that time i was given a stage 3 interview (while syill holding a doctors note!) i returned to work on rehab in nov. i still havent had my st 3 warning and it is driving me insane. my manager says its being sorted etc , but all im thinking is do i have a job? is there a time limit for issuing stages ie it has been almost 4 months since i have been back and over 6 monthst since my first st 3 interview. i have a family etc and i dont want to lose my job but im not getting the feedback i want. some people are sayin "its ya first st 3 you will be ok " and some r sayin " there saking everyone on st 3 now " im shittin myselves here !! its like a form of torture. PLEASE EASE MY MIND AND KEEP ME SANE!

It isn't nice!, there's people having "domestic problems", but Auntie Joan can only die once

[vigilante]

attitude at the moment is sack first appeal later.
it's sad and i wish the public knew this as well.
iv'e got one member with 37 years in who has had certificates all through sickness and has been sacked
with an appeal this wed.
when you look at your have your say and you see ' do you find RM a good employer' of course you'll say yes.
lets face it your a number and if your full time your a number they want to get rid off.
sorry mate for being pessimistic not all get sacked for sick.

[bigsharkboy]

my old area manager used to always when a member got to a stage 3 give them a final chance to turn there attendance around

these days the c***s issue them like they are going out of fashion

always make sure you are accompanied by at least a area rep when u get to a stage 3 your job might depend on it

[norbet colon]

my old area manager used to always when a member got to a stage 3 give them a final chance to turn there attendance around

these days the c***s issue them like they are going out of fashion

always make sure you are accompanied by at least a area rep when u get to a stage 3 your job might depend on it

Sounds if RM are sitting on it, I'd surmise something has been botched , to be fair there is problems with Sheffield, some are apathetic & just put it down to the system but it may be a bad career move to be critical of that system. Best approach is to pull RM on the conduct code which means the rep putting his neck on the block & "coincidences " later for him.
Either way, it's undue stress & harassment , worse case scenario is use that & RM's Poor handling in a tribunal, but that's not a nice thing to go through if a appeal { with delay?] fails.

[norbet colon]

Anyone know what happens if you go off sick more than 12 months after walking out of the Last Chance Saloon
Some blokes on the floor reckon your records wiped clean if you go a year without a sickie, but that don't seem right to me. I've also been told to watch out cos there is some rule about having a certain number of stage warnings of ANY kind in a three year period that triggers an automatic RTU !!! Who's right about this ?
I don't really want to decorate the bedroom yet anyway, so if I can tell the missus that I can't throw a sickie cos my job will be on the line, I can get out of doing it The old way was give people enough rope to hang themselves with i.e. 3 back to a 2, the way now is people are not showing commitment to reform thier act, so a RTU becomes a automatic dismissal. Dangerous, arrogant sweeping statements to make.

Cheers

[Wilbur Spoons]

I have been to a RTU twice in my time at RM. If you don't get it issued then you are still on a stage 2, there isn't actually ever a stage 3 warning issued. So once you have survived the RTU then all the rules for a stage 2 apply. ie If you aren't sick for a year afterwards then, yes, the slate is wiped clean. To say that doesn't seem right is an odd thing to come out with. I mean is it right that people are punished for being unlucky with illness / injury - I think not!

This thing about having so many illnesses in a 3 year period is also complete rubbish, the attendance procedure is there to protect us as well as punish (which btw they try to say they aren't doing).

[Wilbur Spoons]

In addition to the person who has been waiting 6 months for their interview, you need to get the Union involved. They have taken too long over it and really can't issue it now.

[POSTMAN]

In addition to the person who has been waiting 6 months for their interview, you need to get the Union involved. They have taken too long over it and really can't issue it now.

'Within a reasonable time frame' 6 months aint so yes it should be sent back.

[norbet colon]

attitude at the moment is sack first appeal later.
it's sad and i wish the public knew this as well.
iv'e got one member with 37 years in who has had certificates all through sickness and has been sacked
with an appeal this wed.
when you look at your have your say and you see ' do you find RM a good employer' of course you'll say yes.
lets face it your a number and if your full time your a number they want to get rid off.
sorry mate for being pessimistic not all get sacked for sick.

The new one is not showing commitment to reform your act to justify a dismissal, can be a bit arrogant & sweeping but hardly a surprise these days.

[evilc]

In addition to the person who has been waiting 6 months for their interview, you need to get the Union involved. They have taken too long over it and really can't issue it now.

'Within a reasonable time frame' 6 months aint so yes it should be sent back.

especially if in that time you have had hardly any time off.

[Wilbur Spoons]

In addition to the person who has been waiting 6 months for their interview, you need to get the Union involved. They have taken too long over it and really can't issue it now.

'Within a reasonable time frame' 6 months aint so yes it should be sent back.

especially if in that time you have had hardly any time off.

Regardless of any further time off. Its too long.

[evilc]

In addition to the person who has been waiting 6 months for their interview, you need to get the Union involved. They have taken too long over it and really can't issue it now.

'Within a reasonable time frame' 6 months aint so yes it should be sent back.

especially if in that time you have had hardly any time off.

Regardless of any further time off. Its too long.

Yes,totally agree, but surely if they did try and make it stick surely that would help.

[Wilbur Spoons]

The thing the rep should be saying is basically 'tough' they have taken 6 months to start any action, and regardless of any absence they can't issue anything. Are you aware that any sick absences you take when awaiting an interview on the attendance procedure MUST be ignored as per the agreement, you can only be interviewed based on the absence which has triggered the interview.