OFCOM USO question

[ted_e_bear]

when a senior manager came to our office we brought up mon to Friday he said it wont be a Saturday going it would be a Tuesday that will be crap

Yeah it will definitely be Saturday can't imagine anyone thinking otherwise, and yes it will be popular with the posties the Union will be on a loser trying to get us to vote against it.

You work Saturdays as is for nothing extra this job will be 7 days a week soon parcels will be the big revenue as to thinking a Saturday off Boris Johnson may grow wings first and fly!

Don't forget about the parcel strategy plan or whatever it's called,the work they don't want ie letters/birthday cards/catalogues/whatever you want to call junk mail these days/everything else that comes under the uso that we have to do but isn't cost effective, it'll be Mon -fri for these but seven days a week, for the parcels.

I don't think that's quite right. According to the strategy, small untracked AND SMALL tracked are to be delivered along with mail. Larger parcels and LAT to go to hubs. So what you're forgetting about is all the little parcels that go through the door (that people DO want), especially the Chinese market (which RM are trying to grow).

Good point I forgot about the small tracked etc, yeah that's going to be a tricky one !

[SpacePhoenix]

I don't think that's quite right. According to the strategy, small untracked AND SMALL tracked are to be delivered along with mail. Larger parcels and LAT to go to hubs. So what you're forgetting about is all the little parcels that go through the door (that people DO want), especially the Chinese market (which RM are trying to grow).

I think RM could be seeing how the current plans play out, I wouldn't put it past them to at some point look to moving all remaining Tracked over to the hubs

[Binsey]

I don't think that's quite right. According to the strategy, small untracked AND SMALL tracked are to be delivered along with mail. Larger parcels and LAT to go to hubs. So what you're forgetting about is all the little parcels that go through the door (that people DO want), especially the Chinese market (which RM are trying to grow).

I think RM could be seeing how the current plans play out, I wouldn't put it past them to at some point look to moving all remaining Tracked over to the hubs

All tracked are going to the Hubs.
MC are still dealing with them. But with cross-docking that's another game changer.
Indeed the Employers new workforce have been delivering them throughout the country during the Christmas pressure period.


The complete separation has now begun.

[ssdd]

All tracked are going to the Hubs.
MC are still dealing with them. But with cross-docking that's another game changer.
Indeed the Employers new workforce have been delivering them throughout the country during the Christmas pressure period.


The complete separation has now begun.

I've had that thought too Binsey, that the agency staff are going to be Rico's new workforce and are not there simply to cover in the event of IA. I agree that all tracked are going to Hubs, the point I was making is that according to 'Journey 2024' small tracked will be delivered ALONG with mail.
I'm not sure about cross-docking, never worked in a MC, but in our DO the agency staff have been clearing any oversize packets that have been left. Well apart from the couple of times they had them delivering mail!

[SpacePhoenix]

I can see any MC that can't accommodate at least 1 packet sorting machine closing down. They'd still need some manual sortation for the packets that get rejected but it would be a large cut in staff. Anyone who works in a MC with a packet sorting machine, what was the net gain or loss of staffing numbers?

[rambo1]

Corbyn would have had us on a four day week if he was to be believed. How would the labour contributing CWU liked that one?

[Grumpyoldmailman]

I don't think that's quite right. According to the strategy, small untracked AND SMALL tracked are to be delivered along with mail. Larger parcels and LAT to go to hubs. So what you're forgetting about is all the little parcels that go through the door (that people DO want), especially the Chinese market (which RM are trying to grow).

I think RM could be seeing how the current plans play out, I wouldn't put it past them to at some point look to moving all remaining Tracked over to the hubs

All tracked are going to the Hubs.
MC are still dealing with them. But with cross-docking that's another game changer.
Indeed the Employers new workforce have been delivering them throughout the country during the Christmas pressure period.


The complete separation has now begun.

It would appear that the new workforce has already been upset:

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[Phunter]

The decision to downgrade the USO, or otherwise, will be made by Ofcom in 2020. Royal mail have said the regulator has begun the review of the Universal service. We will actively participate in it. We will continue to deliver the USO - and will be proud to do so - whatever the outcome. Royal Mail also states ..."it's important we deliver a Universal Service that's right for customers in the 21st Century" & We will deliver the Universal Service for our country.

The 2011 legislation set out Ofcom’s specific statutory duties in Part 3 of the Act, which is entitled: ‘Regulation of Postal Services’.
Subsection 1 in this Part of the Act states:

“OFCOM must carry out their functions in relation to postal services in a way that they consider will secure the provision of a universal postal service.”

My question;
Is it true that the company has privately floated the idea of slimming the USO commitment to deliver letters from six to five days a week, cancelling Saturdays & what effect would this have on delivery jobs in reality.

OFCOM has decided to review the Universal Service Obligation (“USO”) to a 5 days letters delivery service Monday to Friday, that will promote this last day to First Class Friday (“FCF”) assigning it as the day where First-Class Letters are the only ones with assurance to be delivered when posted Thursday. FCF will be the day to be evaluated at a later date for delivery of letters by the next USO review. FCF will prospect the importance of a First Class Service (“FCS”) and manage decline whilst growing FCS business. An FCS will imply one in four long weekends and a later review, four days weeks.

[leolion855]

There just gonna swap it round from a 6 day letter,5 day parcel uso, to a 6 day parcel( and business mail),5 day letter uso.RM are not going to want lose out on the lucrative 6 day parcel market.

[SpacePhoenix]

There just gonna swap it round from a 6 day letter,5 day parcel uso, to a 6 day parcel( and business mail),5 day letter uso.RM are not going to want lose out on the lucrative 6 day parcel market.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were to eventually offer Sunday delivery for a premium via the LAT hubs

[Phunter]

There just gonna swap it round from a 6 day letter,5 day parcel uso, to a 6 day parcel( and business mail),5 day letter uso.RM are not going to want lose out on the lucrative 6 day parcel market.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were to eventually offer Sunday delivery for a premium via the LAT hubs

[leolion855]

OFCOM has decided to review the Universal Service Obligation (“USO”) to a 5 days letters delivery service Monday to Friday, that will promote this last day to First Class Friday (“FCF”) assigning it as the day where First-Class Letters are the only ones with assurance to be delivered when posted Thursday. FCF will be the day to be evaluated at a later date for delivery of letters by the next USO review. FCF will prospect the importance of a First Class Service (“FCS”) and manage decline whilst growing FCS business. An FCS will imply one in four long weekends and a later review, four days weeks.

Great just when i found a job i liked im gonna get sacked next year then, everytime i settle down life kicks me back to the ground, there's not much point me getting up again this time when it happens i hope it kicks me 6ft under if it happens.

[rogersh]

Postal Services Act 2011

29 Duty to secure provision of universal postal service

(1) OFCOM must carry out their functions in relation to postal services in a way that they consider will secure the provision of a universal postal service.

7) The Secretary of State may direct OFCOM to take, or refrain from taking, specified action for the purpose of securing that, in the opinion of the Secretary of State, sufficient access points are provided throughout the United Kingdom to meet the interests of the public.

[Woody Guthrie]

According to RM it was the regulator who brought forward the planned review not the business. It's up to you whether you believe that or not.

The regulator is not there to defend the current provisions in the USO but to ensure its ongoing sustainability.

That basically means find a model that doesn't haemorrhage cash and if that's 5 days or 3 days then so be it.

I'm not sure the business is that keen to drop any days from delivery yet, there's only really profit in the small and medium parcel game If you're offsetting some of the cost by delivering letters. If they cut letters from some days they'll also probably have to cut standard small and medium parcels and that's a gift to competitors.

[Phunter]

Minimum requirements don't mean that is compulsory, RMG might decide which areas are dependent on letters to be profitable.