Not only in London

[OnAFlyer]

Here are a few offices who have gone through transformation and have a large percentage of full time and clearly are not at 100.

Shows that these are offices have correctly applied the national agreements and have forced management to do so also.

Edinburgh west 107 full time and 12 part time
Edinburgh EH9 28 FT and 4 PT
Altens 121 FT and 10 PT
Liverpool South 110 FT and 13 PT
Manchester DO 76 FT and 2 PT
Hereford 169 FT and 31 PT
Wisbeach 76 FT and 4 PT
Preston 192 FT and 20 PT
Derby 28 ft and 5 pt
Abingdon 81 full time and 4 part time
Bristol BS2 19 full time and 3 part time.
St Ives Camb 39 FT and 1 PT

I could go on but the fact is that there are a lot of offices throughout the UK who did not agree 100BSI and they are not the enemy the same way as those in London are not.

Can you list the EP's for all these offices, as that's what most people were getting miffed about with the north London ones.

Also do you know if those figures are the number of FT/PT walks or actual staff? As we have a fairly high percentage of FT walks in our office but a lot are now done by PT staff with the prepping absorbed into indoor workload.

[Martin Walsh]

Mother hubbard its you are clearly a busted flush !! The Union will continue and will protect the members.

If you really think its a no strike deal then it is no wonder you have a chip on your shoulder.

Look why don't you post on other threads rather then when I put up a thread.

Now for the record people work in delivery offices all the time on different performances and this has always happened.

But lets be clear I have no issue if an office is a 90 or 95 and moves to an 100. But i do have a problem if any office has agreed an indoor performance and it does not work and then blame others and not do anything as an office to resolve it.

In my own Division we have offices with close on a 50/50 split of ft and pt however due to the Thames Corridor growth the part timers are now increasing their hours due to the unprecedented growth in delivery points and we mean offices doubling their total delivery points.

Let me ask you a question do you think its right for you and other posters to have a go at workers for working at a performance which is what was agreed in past revisions ? Is it their fault or is it just because its London.

[Himaggen]

dingo, is there a particular reason why you didn't acknowledge/respond to my question?

[RTP]

dingo, is there a particular reason why you didn't acknowledge/respond to my question?

I wouldn't worry too much.

He hasn't answered mine either.

[cloherty1976]

dingo, is there a particular reason why you didn't acknowledge/respond to my question?

Maybe he is getting a factual answer and not just writing a load of dribble. He seems to have answered others quite factually which have not been challenged, so I presume he might be telling the truth. Just a thought

[Himaggen]

@cloherty1976, your reply to me appears to imply that my bump was unreasonable! I didn't ask to be spoken to like a child, I know that there are a multitude of reasons why dingo may not have provided me with an exact answer to my request. However in responding to a question raised after mine I would have found it reasonable that they add a small note to that effect!

[cloherty1976]

@cloherty1976, your reply to me appears to imply that my bump was unreasonable! I didn't ask to be spoken to like a child, I know that there are a multitude of reasons why dingo may not have provided me with an exact answer to my request. However in responding to a question raised after mine I would have found it reasonable that they add a small note to that effect!

No just replying to a question as I asked dingo once and he took a few days to answer but did come back with the correct answer!

[Himaggen]

Answering someone elses question with a maybe was unnecessary.

[cloherty1976]

Answering someone elses question with a maybe was unnecessary.

I used the word maybe because I don't know what he is doing. If that is unnecessary well I am lost for words. I'll retire to my cab..

[POSTMAN]

The figures that Dingo have recently published are from somewhere obviously,I understand why him and others in his position would have those figures and stats ect.

But why can't we as 'paying members' have access to the 'deal of the century/all you need to do is wave the agreement in the managers face' (sorry for the sarcasm) stats and figures on a regular basis like through the voice magazine.

The 2010 was supposed to be a new understanding with regular meetings of the great minds and updates.

Is someone ashamed of something?

[drb]

Is someone ashamed of something?

I whole hardheartedly agree here..what is the big bloody secret?

[motherhubbard]

Are there 2 Dingos?
I am sure one was on here just a few days ago lamenting the lack of debating ability on this site.
I asked how an office EP was calculated and Dingo replied:
Mother hubbard its you are clearly a busted flush !! (sic)
I asked what effect a 10 point increase in EP would have on an office's hours and Dingo replied
It is no wonder you have a chip on your shoulder.

Avoiding the question and throwing around personal insults. I take it that is what passes for skilled debating in the upper echelons of the CWU nowadays?

Obviously there will be differences in office performances but there is a world of difference between scenario 1: an office operating at 70bsi and another at 80 bsi and scenario 2: an office operating at 105 (and clearing) and another at 65.
It would appear you trumpet the feckless and the workshy as paragons of trade union values. I don't.
I work alongside people like that. I don't think they are good trade unionists I just think they are lazy c***s.

As for only posting on your threads, among my 1000+ posts are questions about female reps (long before "proportionality" became a buzzword) and concerns over sufficient toilet facilities on days when my period is at its heaviest with a longer delivery span. But you just carry on thinking it is all about you. (Self obsessed?)
I posted on your threads because I don't believe you should be allowed to post such unadulterated shite without being questioned.
That you have resorted to ignorance and insult speaks volumes about you and the CWU.

I left this site for a while because I grew tired of reading the ignorant anti-union tirades of some posters.
I am leaving again because I am tired of the garbage being posted by union apologists.

My last post.

[Martin Walsh]

Sugar no one got conned in too 100 BSI on park and loop as BSI is only about the indoor.

Now those who went into geo route early did not have Manuel adjustments and clearly should demand a review as parcels would have grown since that point and the model week will probably need changing.

The indoor performance is based on measurements of the offices and in put based on hours and traffic and in my opinion very few are accurate. For a start if your model week said you had 5000 parcels but now you have 6000 against that same model then you are clearly working above performance , equally if you have a load of people who come in early and part timers who come in on overtime and this is not recorded than you are using far more hours indoor then you are credited for and you BSI. Is false.

It is a myth that all offices who went in early went in at 100. What is true is that a huge number of offices who agreed to an BSI Figure are not hitting the hours for that BSI Figure some are saving more and a significant number are spending more.

[Himaggen]

So dingo, as part of our new relationship and as a result of the 'Delivery Reviews', are the CWU insisting or recommending that all Delivery Offices who were early to adopt Delivery Methods Revisions should have their outdoor element re-worked in order to be not only accurate but on a similar playing field to those late adopters.

[Glenno]

So dingo, as part of our new relationship and as a result of the 'Delivery Reviews', are the CWU insisting or recommending that all Delivery Offices who were early to adopt Delivery Methods Revisions should have their outdoor element re-worked in order to be not only accurate but on a similar playing field to those late adopters.

I like your attitude Glenno