ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

43,000 didn't vote why?????

Got a question for a CWU Rep? And all CWU related matters.
fishtank
Posts: 19732
Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
Gender: Male

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by fishtank »

clashcityrocker wrote:
fishtank wrote:
In answer to the OP question 43,000 didn't vote why?
Who really gives a f**k? :cuppa
We do - because the possible disengagement of a sizeable number of union members is not good news.
That might be the case but now is not the time for soul searching discussions about member disengagement.

The turnout was decent given the threats,propaganda and inducements being handed out by Royal Mail.I can't remember an Industrial Action Ballot where the employer has so blatantly tried to interfere with the democratic process.

The 78% Yes vote is actually quite impressive given that most on here were predicting a much closer result.The rest we'll deal with after we've delivered the agreement the members deserve.
Why spend our time wringing our hands over non voters at this point in time?
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
mightyowler
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 73
Joined: 10 Oct 2013, 19:16
Gender: Male

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by mightyowler »

I can't answer of those who didn't take the time to vote, all can say is I did, and I got the result I wished for...
clashcityrocker
Posts: 16689
Joined: 22 Sep 2009, 13:50
Gender: Male
Location: strummerville

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by clashcityrocker »

fishtank wrote: Why spend our time wringing our hands over non voters at this point in time?
Because we are going to need them to stand on the picket line, or at the very least stay away from work.
The hand wringing will have to happen at some point. Haven't we put it off for too long already?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
fishtank
Posts: 19732
Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
Gender: Male

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by fishtank »

clashcityrocker wrote:The hand wringing will have to happen at some point. Haven't we put it off for too long already?
Membership engagement has to happen at some point,that has been put off for too long.
Hand wringing and beating ourselves up over why some members didn't vote just undermines confidence in the battle ahead.

I'll answer the question.
Some couldn't be arsed.
Some might have wanted to vote no but couldn't bring themselves to do it.
Some might have wanted to vote yes but couldn't bring themselves to do it.
Some might not have received their ballot paper.
Some probably put it down somewhere and couldn't find it again.
Some forgot to fill it in.
Some forgot to post it.
Somebody's kid probably drew pictures all over it.
Somebody's dog ate it.
Somebody's cat pissed all over it.
One slept with their mate's wife,got caught and is in the middle of divorce proceedings.
One lost the ability to write.
One couldn't find a pen.
One member died when an auto-asphyxiation role playing night went badly wrong.
The list is not exhaustive.....
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
cloherty1976
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 1236
Joined: 11 Mar 2010, 12:16
Gender: Male
Location: The south

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by cloherty1976 »

Will they announce union fees going up soon!
DavidUK
Posts: 77
Joined: 31 Aug 2010, 21:22
Gender: Male
Location: Lincolnshire

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by DavidUK »

Less than a third of staff voted for strike action. That's a pretty empathtic rejection of CWU call to strike.
fishtank
Posts: 19732
Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
Gender: Male

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by fishtank »

DavidUK wrote:Less than a third of staff voted for strike action. That's a pretty empathtic rejection of CWU call to strike.
Did you expect managers and non members to get a vote as well?
If you want to screw around with statistics only one in eight voted against strike action,that's a pretty emphatic rejection of Royal Mail's policies.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
cloherty1976
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 1236
Joined: 11 Mar 2010, 12:16
Gender: Male
Location: The south

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by cloherty1976 »

fishtank wrote:
Did you expect managers and non members to get a vote as well?
If you want to screw around with statistics only one in eight voted against strike action,that's a pretty emphatic rejection of Royal Mail's policies.
Agree totally so spin it the other way. This is today's politics.
TrueBlueTerrier
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 72727
Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
Gender: Male
Location: On my couch

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

Is Poundland doing a special on guns at the moment - certainly seem to be a lot of Anti-Union Cheap shots going on, I expected better debate from the deniers. :sad:
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
dvbuk55
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 16650
Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
Gender: Male

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by dvbuk55 »

fishtank wrote:One member died when an auto-asphyxiation role playing night went badly wrong.
The list is not exhaustive.....
Was he a Conservative?
TrueBlueTerrier
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 72727
Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
Gender: Male
Location: On my couch

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

dvbuk55 wrote:
fishtank wrote:One member died when an auto-asphyxiation role playing night went badly wrong.
The list is not exhaustive.....
Was he a Conservative?
Why was an Orange found at the scene.
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
HeilMoya
Posts: 48
Joined: 26 May 2010, 16:23
Gender: Male

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by HeilMoya »

Count me in the figures of "did not receive a ballot paper". I got all the leaflets etc no problem, but the ballot paper suspisciously never showed its face.
dvbuk55
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 16650
Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
Gender: Male

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by dvbuk55 »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
fishtank wrote:One member died when an auto-asphyxiation role playing night went badly wrong.
The list is not exhaustive.....
Was he a Conservative?
Why was an Orange found at the scene.
Yes and a pair of tights :shock: I would imagine :whistle
feelikeadogsbody
Posts: 66
Joined: 02 Mar 2011, 09:07
Gender: Male
Location: down south

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by feelikeadogsbody »

Unfortunatley I'm off sick at the moment, but from my postman putting the ballot paper through the letterbox to me voting yes and posting it was less than ten minutes.The reason is apathy they want the rest of us to make their minds up for them :arrrghhh
when i am king you will be first against the wall
with your opinions which are of no consequence at all
anyway im cutting off
TrueBlueTerrier
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 72727
Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
Gender: Male
Location: On my couch

Re: 43,000 didn't vote why?????

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

dvbuk55 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
fishtank wrote:One member died when an auto-asphyxiation role playing night went badly wrong.
The list is not exhaustive.....
Was he a Conservative?
Why was an Orange found at the scene.
Yes and a pair of tights :shock: I would imagine :whistle
you twigged then :oops: :oops:
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.