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Personal mobiles 'gps' tracked by RM?

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arnold cheshire
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Re: Personal mobiles 'gps' tracked by RM?

Post by arnold cheshire »

k979aaa wrote:In a word BOLLOCKS you need to authorise your own phone to be tracked by someone other than the emergency services and GCHQ just be more concerned more about your PDA and your VAN the manager is BS you!.
sounds right
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Post by flaminmoses »

So if they ping your mobile if its at home htf can the ping be diverted to your payg????

Think about it.....its impossible
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Post by arnold cheshire »

flaminmoses wrote:So if they ping your mobile if its at home htf can the ping be diverted to your payg????

Think about it.....its impossible
so if they track your mobile and youve left it at home can they sack you for being off route ????????? ludricious
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k979aaa wrote:In a word BOLLOCKS you need to authorise your own phone to be tracked by someone other than the emergency services and GCHQ just be more concerned more about your PDA and your VAN the manager is BS you!.
Thanks for the input fella but if you had read this thread you would clearly see that this guy is not my manager he is a reporter with The Guardian and he is quoting actual legislation - RIPA - which he says allows RM managers to request location info on mobile phones from carriers. read the article!
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Re: Personal mobiles 'gps' tracked by RM?

Post by flaminmoses »

bringon4dayweeks wrote:
flaminmoses wrote:So if they ping your mobile if its at home htf can the ping be diverted to your payg????

Think about it.....its impossible
so if they track your mobile and youve left it at home can they sack you for being off route ????????? ludricious
No you tell em you dont bring your mobile to work
If they then want to track you they have to go down the proper chanel

Just get the whole office or rather all posties to get a free mobile off rm
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Re: Personal mobiles 'gps' tracked by RM?

Post by Talell »

such evidence like this probably wouldn't hold up in a ET since it relies on too many assumptions, infact it probably isn't even allowed for the use we are thinking of.

It's most likely for IB
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Re: Personal mobiles 'gps' tracked by RM?

Post by sparkx »

Talell wrote:such evidence like this probably wouldn't hold up in a ET since it relies on too many assumptions, infact it probably isn't even allowed for the use we are thinking of.

It's most likely for IB
If you look up Statutory Instrument 2003/3172 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003 ... 172_en.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This sets out who in each organisation with powers under Ripa is at a high enough level to give authority, according to this it is a 'Senior Investigation Manager in Royal Mail Group PLC'.

I found this one as well that explains why organisations need to have powers under Ripa, http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/201 ... 365_en.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

'Royal Mail
The Royal Mail Group Ltd uses directed surveillance in its capacity as universal postal
service provider. This enables it to fulfil its long standing role of investigating criminal
offences such as theft of and/or conspiracy to steal mail in course of transmission by post,
including mail containing passports and identity information as well as financial items and
valuables, postage evasion fraud and people selling stolen goods on the internet. Directed
surveillance can help provide evidence of theft or other crime.'

So Talell is right, it's something the IB can use when investigating crime, not anything every manager has access to to keep an eye on his staff.