legal or illegal?

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 27 Jul 2007, 23:32

Jonboy wrote:
springheeled boris wrote:f**k the law. while we stick to the law this strike is a dead duck, we all know this undesirable truth. every time we give notice of a planned action the pimps and gangster just plan to counter it. we are just chasing our own tails and all the time the ruling class, gangsters, pimps and the land owners are laughing at us. we are all, by birth members of the proletariat and as members of the proletariat we are at war, constantly. we must break the law, send flying pickets to strike breaking offices and twat the bastards, call unannounced strike days. a bad law is there to be broken - how the hell do you think we got holidays, pensions and better working conditions? we got them by fighting for them and not by standing still to be knocked down.
hello Boris interesting post you made?
Calm down m8 and chill out big time!!!!!!!!!!
You dont walk in her today and demand what you state m8 troublemakers like your post states, cause more problems for our Union to organise a well disciplined picket line controlled by an offical member designated by the CWU such as Area rep's etc. Your attitude is one of a hell bent mischief maker that CWU can do well with out!
What an entrance by you maybe your exit will be dismissal by RM for causing a scene of unruly behaviour use your brain mate! dont give them amunition to discipline you.

They don't seem in any great rush to bin strike breakers from the CWU or the TUC and I think Boris's attitude is far less offensive than a head case driving a truck into a wall, or even a van.

springheeled boris · Post by **springheeled boris** » 27 Jul 2007, 23:40

jonboy, thanks for your polite reply but i can't understand the m8 ( i think it means mate?) any way i wonder what john Paul Marat and Jacques Rene Hebert would have made of your post?. my post cannot cause any more problems for the union than the union itself. a couple of years ago when sdd came in the union sat by doing nothing while my office had a total approx Â£152, 000 pounds stolen from them (Â£1350each) so dont tell me to calm down. in December of that year we asked for a vote on industrial action but the dutiful cwu said we couldn't have one, at least billy was well paid. i ve calmed down and you are right, being good girls, doing what they were told and behaving in the law got women the vote.

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 27 Jul 2007, 23:52

springheeled boris wrote:jonboy, thanks for your polite reply but i can't understand the m8 ( i think it means mate?) any way i wonder what john Paul Marat and Jacques Rene Hebert would have made of your post?. my post cannot cause any more problems for the union than the union itself. a couple of years ago when sdd came in the union sat by doing nothing while my office had a total approx Â£152, 000 pounds stolen from them (Â£1350each) so dont tell me to calm down. in December of that year we asked for a vote on industrial action but the dutiful cwu said we couldn't have one, at least billy was well paid. i ve calmed down and you are right, being good girls, doing what they were told and behaving in the law got women the vote.

I'll bet you're a fan of Thomas Paine as well! I must say my friend, you're a tonic and I look forward to reading your thoughts in the future on here.

Post by **Jonboy** » 28 Jul 2007, 00:01

springheeled boris wrote:jonboy, thanks for your polite reply but i can't understand the m8 ( i think it means mate?) any way i wonder what john Paul Marat and Jacques Rene Hebert would have made of your post?. my post cannot cause any more problems for the union than the union itself. a couple of years ago when sdd came in the union sat by doing nothing while my office had a total approx Â£152, 000 pounds stolen from them (Â£1350each) so dont tell me to calm down. in December of that year we asked for a vote on industrial action but the dutiful cwu said we couldn't have one, at least billy was well paid. i ve calmed down and you are right, being good girls, doing what they were told and behaving in the law got women the vote.

You are a sad man u no m8 of mineSo does that mean you are on acting or a manager? take a holiday on mars, leighton will show you where to stay he does no work, rest and plays :lfo
Union will still be here after you have long gone and u wont be missed.
Did you take the money then?

Â£152, 000 pounds stolen from them (Â£1350each)

i have wiped crap off my shoe better smelling than you

Post by **Jonboy** » 28 Jul 2007, 00:05

homer simpson didnt take it from springfield?

Post by **Jonboy** » 28 Jul 2007, 00:11

Boris are you a rep or member? and how long you served?

springheeled boris · Post by **springheeled boris** » 28 Jul 2007, 00:14

Jonboy wrote:
springheeled boris wrote:jonboy, thanks for your polite reply but i can't understand the m8 ( i think it means mate?) any way i wonder what john Paul Marat and Jacques Rene Hebert would have made of your post?. my post cannot cause any more problems for the union than the union itself. a couple of years ago when sdd came in the union sat by doing nothing while my office had a total approx Â£152, 000 pounds stolen from them (Â£1350each) so dont tell me to calm down. in December of that year we asked for a vote on industrial action but the dutiful cwu said we couldn't have one, at least billy was well paid. i ve calmed down and you are right, being good girls, doing what they were told and behaving in the law got women the vote.
You are a sad man u no m8 of mineSo does that mean you are on acting or a manager? take a holiday on mars, leighton will show you where to stay he does no work, rest and plays :lfo
Union will still be here after you have long gone and u wont be missed.
Did you take the money then?
Â£152, 000 pounds stolen from them (Â£1350each)

i have wiped crap off my shoe better smelling than you

what the f**k?

did i taker the money? can you f***ing read - i had Â£1352 stolen from me by royal mail- did i take the money- right fair. the cwu did nothing for me or my colleagues.
sure the cwu will be here after i am gone but it will be like the American teamsters- doing nothing for it's members but for the gangsters running it. does this text speak mean you are on the level, with the boys, on the line or just a prat?

springheeled boris · Post by **springheeled boris** » 28 Jul 2007, 00:20

Jonboy wrote:Boris are you a rep or member? and how long you served?

jonboy, i ve just seen this post after my own, look i am a postman, i have been for over 24 years and just starting my 25th. all my life i have been a member of the cwu. i come from a socialist family WHO HAVE NEVER CROSSED A PICKET LINE IN THEIR LIFE. we are fighting for the same goal but my road is quite different one from you. i may not be your mate but you are mine.

Post by **Jonboy** » 28 Jul 2007, 00:27

springheeled boris wrote:
Jonboy wrote:
springheeled boris wrote:jonboy, thanks for your polite reply but i can't understand the m8 ( i think it means mate?) any way i wonder what john Paul Marat and Jacques Rene Hebert would have made of your post?. my post cannot cause any more problems for the union than the union itself. a couple of years ago when sdd came in the union sat by doing nothing while my office had a total approx Â£152, 000 pounds stolen from them (Â£1350each) so dont tell me to calm down. in December of that year we asked for a vote on industrial action but the dutiful cwu said we couldn't have one, at least billy was well paid. i ve calmed down and you are right, being good girls, doing what they were told and behaving in the law got women the vote.
You are a sad man u no m8 of mineSo does that mean you are on acting or a manager? take a holiday on mars, leighton will show you where to stay he does no work, rest and plays :lfo
Union will still be here after you have long gone and u wont be missed.
Did you take the money then?
Â£152, 000 pounds stolen from them (Â£1350each)

i have wiped crap off my shoe better smelling than you
what the f**k?

did i taker the money? can you f***ing read - i had Â£1352 stolen from me by royal mail- did i take the money- right fair. the cwu did nothing for me or my colleagues.
sure the cwu will be here after i am gone but it will be like the American teamsters- doing nothing for it's members but for the gangsters running it. does this text speak mean you are on the level, with the boys, on the line or just a prat?

They took the money from you?
how and when?
all that money and you still there WTF?
Breakdown is needed of the monies mentioned i think 1st
i not a prat just a rep
fighting for your future as well as others!
Dont rise to the feckers and give them a chance to rid of u or us
maybe afull explanation of your post is need in detail?

springheeled boris · Post by **springheeled boris** » 28 Jul 2007, 00:32

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
I'll bet you're a fan of Thomas Paine as well! I must say my friend, you're a tonic and I look forward to reading your thoughts in the future on here.

you bet i am. shame the americans try to claim him as their own and we try to disclaim him as ours. i wish the french thing worked out for him as well as the sans-culottes.

springheeled boris · Post by **springheeled boris** » 28 Jul 2007, 00:52

ok,
sdd was introduced in our office in 2004(?) could be 2003. anyway we was promised by our union that if we did not make the Â£26 a week they would come and find out why and put into place a plan for us to do with in 12 weeks.

at our office we had a manageress who employed far too many agency staff, many could not read English, in fact one could not read so she sent another one to accompany him- two men on one round. these agency staff always brought bags back so next day the regular postman did not only have to deliver his own days work but yesterdays work also. we could not make the bonus for 4 weeks to consolidate it into our pay, but all work for the day was done by the reg posties. every postie did all the work assigned to him plus what the agency had left them, we could do no more.

the union was notified countless times that we was losing out to miss management and it fell on deaf ears. the promised cavalry never arrived in the 12 weeks, but finally they did, they was told what was happening and went away for their report. the report may have been delivered but nothing else happened- for months. finally one Christmas we finally seen our area representative and request for a vote for industrial action, whre he told us we could not have one. in feb we had a meeting (two months later) where the union made us go from equalised days to long and short days to achieve our Mooney, a whole 13 months late. all the time in these 13 months postmen went from 2.15 delivery span to many over 4 hours, each postman did what was require from him to receive the Â£26 and if you times that by 13 months you get near to the figure i gave you.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 28 Jul 2007, 09:26

Jonboy

i have wiped crap off my shoe better smelling than you

This sort of post no matter what the provocation is not on. In fact I did not see any provocations at all. Please do not in future attack any members of this forum in that way again.

Post by **Jonboy** » 28 Jul 2007, 10:30

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Jonboy

i have wiped crap off my shoe better smelling than you
This sort of post no matter what the provocation is not on. In fact I did not see any provocations at all. Please do not in future attack any members of this forum in that way again.

I apologise for the statement TBT and Boris

norbet colon · Post by **norbet colon** » 28 Jul 2007, 17:24

Jonboy wrote:
springheeled boris wrote:f**k the law. while we stick to the law this strike is a dead duck, we all know this undesirable truth. every time we give notice of a planned action the pimps and gangster just plan to counter it. we are just chasing our own tails and all the time the ruling class, gangsters, pimps and the land owners are laughing at us. we are all, by birth members of the proletariat and as members of the proletariat we are at war, constantly. we must break the law, send flying pickets to strike breaking offices and twat the bastards, call unannounced strike days. a bad law is there to be broken - how the hell do you think we got holidays, pensions and better working conditions? we got them by fighting for them and not by standing still to be knocked down.
hello Boris interesting post you made?
Calm down m8 and chill out big time!!!!!!!!!!
You dont walk in her today and demand what you state m8 troublemakers like your post states, cause more problems for our Union to organise a well disciplined picket line controlled by an official member designated by the CWU such as Area rep's etc. Your attitude is one of a hell bent mischief maker that CWU can do well with out!
What an entrance by you maybe your exit will be dismissal by RM for causing a scene of unruly behavior use your brain mate! dont give them amunition to discipline you.

It's not 1917 !, why do you think RM were doing McCarthyist spying on reps in 2003 for legal action against the CWU? , why do you think reps were suspended ,disciplined & sacked on bent fit ups ? in 2003. The papers , H******* , Rm etc would have a field day I can well imagine RM playing fast & loose on SDD , the legendary Kirkby DO on Dispatches and quite a few cases and strikes in Lancashire , it was hardly a case of RM not knowing about things or given notice either. I appreciate the union is a broad church and I've laughed my socks off @ skits on Red Billy H Genril Sektry and his new labour sympathies posted on here.

Spartacus · Post by **Spartacus** » 28 Jul 2007, 19:17

Go on Boris,tell it like it is.Top man