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Can a Dim tell me to have break b4 I go out
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shelanda
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Re: Can a Dim tell me to have break b4 I go out
It works much better to have meal breaks at a uniform time, thus making sure the rushers will take one, cos if they can get out without taking it they will, they will say they have theirs out but trust me they won't!
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steven100
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Re: Can a Dim tell me to have break b4 I go out
In our office we take 20 mins before we leave the office and 20 mins at the end. I'm sure the doms have tried to change this, i've only back 3 weeks.
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pizz_flap
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Re: Can a Dim tell me to have break b4 I go out
Fluke wrote:This is what the SDD agreement says on the subject.
f) Providing meal break/working time regulation rules are observed, employees will have the flexibility to plan the timing and location of their meal breaks. This flexibility also extends to the ability to have a refreshment break prior going out on delivery as long as it does not compromise the office workplan. Where deliveries are completed within the agreed office workplan then employees will be allowed to pouch off without returning to the office.
In my office they wanted people to have their break whilst waiting for the mis-sort run to come in. We shoved this under their noses and told them to fcuk off and the subject has never been raised since.
I shall pass this to our rep just in case, cos its similar to ours waiting for third wave we often sit about with nowt to do. Hard to look busy doin nothing, so I suspect that as many are not doing laspsin for lack of time, I can see the break idea coming soon.
Thansk to all for input.
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shelanda
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Re: Can a Dim tell me to have break b4 I go out
We too have down time waiting for 2nd wave, but this should not be used as a meal relief as you are always looking out for the lorry so not resting, a meal relief should be a rest break so the best way is to choose a time i.e. if you finish at 14.00pm then you could aim for 08.40 till 09.00am if you have 20 mins then 20 mins later and stick to it religiously it does work if you keep working on it. Then you will find everyone clock watching for 8.40am, trust me I was the most hated person when I first insisted so I know how hard it is!
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lover
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Re: Can a Dim tell me to have break b4 I go out
zx135 wrote:sorry but thats rubbish, there is no statutory requirement that you take a break in the circumstances you describe, there is no requirement that you must take a break, royal mail must provide you the oppertunity to do so but if you decide not to the there is no law against it and also legally if you worked a nine hour shift and you were given 20 minute break after 7 hours it would be in compliance with the legislationdeltaforce wrote:Its a statutory requirement that you take a minimum of 20 mins break within 6 hours of starting your shift. this comes under a EEC directive..meaning that its the law of the land. It s not a RM diktat
from the open gov website
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... G_10029451" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
How much break time do you get?
The amount of break time you get is usually agreed with your employer. It may be written down somewhere (eg in your contract of employment) or might just be part of your employer's standard practice.
Your employer must give you at least the rest breaks required by the Working Time Regulations. They must also ensure that your health and safety is not put at risk. This means that your employer might have to give you more than the amount set out in the regulations, if this reduces a health and safety risk.
Employers' health and safety responsibilities Young workers
If you are under 18 but over 'school leaving age', you are classed as a young worker and have different break allowances to adult workers. You are under school leaving age until the end of summer term of the school year in which you turn 16.
Young workers and working hours (young people section) Rest breaks - a break during your working day
If you are an adult worker (that is, over 18), you will normally have the right to a 20 minute rest break if you are expected to work for more than six hours at a stretch.
A lunch or coffee break can count as your rest break. Additional breaks might be given by your contract of employment. There is no statutory right to 'smoking breaks'.
The requirements are:
the break must be in one block
it cannot be taken off one end of the working day - it must be somewhere in the middle
you are allowed to spend it away from the place on your employer's premises where you work
your employer can say when the break must be taken, as long as it meets these conditions
its euorpean law..you must have a minimum of i thought it was 15 minutes might be 20 within 6 hrs. i looked it up a couple of years ago.thought it prety meager at the time seeing as every other law is ott.if you work 6 hrs without your break you and royal mail are breaking eu law
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Can a Dim tell me to have break b4 I go out
it is not european law that you must take a break, it is european law that you must be given the right to take a break there is no law that says you have to take the break if you dont want to(in this sitation anyway)lover wrote:zx135 wrote:sorry but thats rubbish, there is no statutory requirement that you take a break in the circumstances you describe, there is no requirement that you must take a break, royal mail must provide you the oppertunity to do so but if you decide not to the there is no law against it and also legally if you worked a nine hour shift and you were given 20 minute break after 7 hours it would be in compliance with the legislationdeltaforce wrote:Its a statutory requirement that you take a minimum of 20 mins break within 6 hours of starting your shift. this comes under a EEC directive..meaning that its the law of the land. It s not a RM diktat
from the open gov website
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... G_10029451" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
How much break time do you get?
The amount of break time you get is usually agreed with your employer. It may be written down somewhere (eg in your contract of employment) or might just be part of your employer's standard practice.
Your employer must give you at least the rest breaks required by the Working Time Regulations. They must also ensure that your health and safety is not put at risk. This means that your employer might have to give you more than the amount set out in the regulations, if this reduces a health and safety risk.
Employers' health and safety responsibilities Young workers
If you are under 18 but over 'school leaving age', you are classed as a young worker and have different break allowances to adult workers. You are under school leaving age until the end of summer term of the school year in which you turn 16.
Young workers and working hours (young people section) Rest breaks - a break during your working day
If you are an adult worker (that is, over 18), you will normally have the right to a 20 minute rest break if you are expected to work for more than six hours at a stretch.
A lunch or coffee break can count as your rest break. Additional breaks might be given by your contract of employment. There is no statutory right to 'smoking breaks'.
The requirements are:
the break must be in one block
it cannot be taken off one end of the working day - it must be somewhere in the middle
you are allowed to spend it away from the place on your employer's premises where you work
your employer can say when the break must be taken, as long as it meets these conditions
its euorpean law..you must have a minimum of i thought it was 15 minutes might be 20 within 6 hrs. i looked it up a couple of years ago.thought it prety meager at the time seeing as every other law is ott.if you work 6 hrs without your break you and royal mail are breaking eu law