In the UK, Kretinsky has engaged with the CWU and agreed to certain protections on jobs and pensions but that came after the takeover was under the microscope from regulators and MPs. Not goodwill but necessity.
Aren't they only valid for 2 years?
Yes, EP has pledged to maintain current pay and benefits for at least 2 years. Thing is, our office is already recruiting a dozen new staff on inferior terms which means the 2-tier workforce is growing before equalisation has even been agreed!! This surely undermines the union's negotiating position?
And the bigger worry is what happens after 2 years? I don't want to be the harbinger of doom and gloom on here but I honestly believe RM will do everything they can to prolong the use of those on inferior contracts. If that happens, not only does it weaken any pay rise in the offing, but there is a real risk that this contract because the default - and eventually, the standard and that would a massive long term setback for all of us.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
You sense employing sufficient staff is going to be DK's problem if he doesn't substantially increase wages, rather than having to making staff redundant? Although what are the Government really going to do if he suggests there's too many posties is he really going to be told he keeps employing them to sit around and do nothing?
I really should get another hobby than posting on here as I know it riles a few people up with my opinions i.e. clash.
It's obvious to me that USO reform won't fix everything, especially regarding workloads. Attrition is already high and without decent pay or conditions it will only get worse. Who is else is going to sign up for a physically demanding job on long hours and lower pay when better options may exist elsewhere?
And if Kretinsky eventually says RM can't afford to staff the service or deliver letters at all (which wouldn't surprise me), the government's stuck. Do they subsidise RM (unlikely given public finances), let the USO be cut even further, allow another stamp hike or risk letting the whole thing collapse and face the backlash as DK turns it into a glorified courier company? Right now, my money's on option 4.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
You sense employing sufficient staff is going to be DK's problem if he doesn't substantially increase wages, rather than having to making staff redundant? Although what are the Government really going to do if he suggests there's too many posties is he really going to be told he keeps employing them to sit around and do nothing?
I really should get another hobby than posting on here as I know it riles a few people up with my opinions i.e. clash.
It's obvious to me that USO reform won't fix everything, especially regarding workloads. Attrition is already high and without decent pay or conditions it will only get worse. Who is else is going to sign up for a physically demanding job on long hours and lower pay when better options may exist elsewhere?
And if Kretinsky eventually says RM can't afford to staff the service or deliver letters at all (which wouldn't surprise me), the government's stuck. Do they subsidise RM (unlikely given public finances), let the USO be cut even further, allow another stamp hike or risk letting the whole thing collapse and face the backlash as DK turns it into a glorified courier company? Right now, my money's on option 4.
You better watch you will trigger the sensitive CWU appeasers with your posts...they will go into meltdown and start calling you names.
Remember they are special and above us and see the big picture of the 'real world' and know better than the rest of us because well you know they are 'special'.
Does anybody know his record on previous engagements with european trade unions as sketchy at best when doing research?
Best example I could find was his involvement with Thyssenkrupp Steel in Germany. Kretinsky took a 20% stake and the German union IG Metall wanted clarity on his plans. They sent a detailed three-page questionnaire and didn't get a response for over 3 months. That silence seriously undermined trust and confidence in him as a joint venture partner
In the UK, Kretinsky has engaged with the CWU and agreed to certain protections on jobs and pensions but that came after the takeover was under the microscope from regulators and MPs. Not goodwill but necessity.
He is not know for union friendly behaviour. At Thyssenkrupp his approach was evasive and elsewhere in Europe his strategy has consistently leaned towards asset-stripping, aggressive restructuring and cost cutting over dialogue with workers.
Success always leaves tracks and imho it is setting off alarm bells for us for the future....
What difference does any of that make , not as if Royal Mail has been union friendly over the last 3 years anyway, whoever is in charge , it’s all about budgets and profit, that will never change regardless of who runs the company.
What difference does any of that make , not as if Royal Mail has been union friendly over the last 3 years anyway, whoever is in charge , it’s all about budgets and profit, that will never change regardless of who runs the company.
The OP wanted to know a bit about Kretinsky's track record but I think we all have a strong idea about what direction things are likely to go.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Is there any way we, as a collective, can get rid of this utterly shoddy pack of scumbags known as CWU and get all our subs swapped over to a decent union in one go?
Posties would probably be on minimum wage and zero hour contracts by now if not for the trade union. The cwu postal dept is for the most part made up of posties who have volunteered and were elected by their colleagues to improve our pay terms and conditions. Successfully against many attempts to screw us over. It's by no means perfect. But it's much much better than not having one.
But why don't you volunteer to be a rep if you're unhappy with it? If you're a postie.
-And to everyone in the forum, keep in mind that this is a public forum and there's no way to verify who is and isn't a union member.
Is there any way we, as a collective, can get rid of this utterly shoddy pack of scumbags known as CWU and get all our subs swapped over to a decent union in one go?
Posties would probably be on minimum wage and zero hour contracts by now if not for the trade union. The cwu postal dept is for the most part made up of posties who have volunteered and were elected by their colleagues to improve our pay terms and conditions. Successfully against many attempts to screw us over. It's by no means perfect. But it's much much better than not having one.
But why don't you volunteer to be a rep if you're unhappy with it? If you're a postie.
-And to everyone in the forum, keep in mind that this is a public forum and there's no way to verify who is and isn't a union member.
Wake up mate ffs…,CWU finished under this current so called leadership,
Is there any way we, as a collective, can get rid of this utterly shoddy pack of scumbags known as CWU and get all our subs swapped over to a decent union in one go?
Posties would probably be on minimum wage and zero hour contracts by now if not for the trade union. The cwu postal dept is for the most part made up of posties who have volunteered and were elected by their colleagues to improve our pay terms and conditions. Successfully against many attempts to screw us over. It's by no means perfect. But it's much much better than not having one.
But why don't you volunteer to be a rep if you're unhappy with it? If you're a postie.
-And to everyone in the forum, keep in mind that this is a public forum and there's no way to verify who is and isn't a union member.
Very easy to verify who is an isn't a union member as all they do on here is bash the union.as for the op hes been banned on here a few times already under different usernames.an nobody believes hes a postie.
Is there any way we, as a collective, can get rid of this utterly shoddy pack of scumbags known as CWU and get all our subs swapped over to a decent union in one go?
Posties would probably be on minimum wage and zero hour contracts by now if not for the trade union. The cwu postal dept is for the most part made up of posties who have volunteered and were elected by their colleagues to improve our pay terms and conditions. Successfully against many attempts to screw us over. It's by no means perfect. But it's much much better than not having one.
But why don't you volunteer to be a rep if you're unhappy with it? If you're a postie.
-And to everyone in the forum, keep in mind that this is a public forum and there's no way to verify who is and isn't a union member.
Very easy to verify who is an isn't a union member as all they do on here is bash the union.as for the op hes been banned on here a few times already under different usernames.an nobody believes hes a postie.
I’ll rejoin the union if they get rid off Ward Walsh and Webb
Is there any way we, as a collective, can get rid of this utterly shoddy pack of scumbags known as CWU and get all our subs swapped over to a decent union in one go?
Posties would probably be on minimum wage and zero hour contracts by now if not for the trade union. The cwu postal dept is for the most part made up of posties who have volunteered and were elected by their colleagues to improve our pay terms and conditions. Successfully against many attempts to screw us over. It's by no means perfect. But it's much much better than not having one.
But why don't you volunteer to be a rep if you're unhappy with it? If you're a postie.
-And to everyone in the forum, keep in mind that this is a public forum and there's no way to verify who is and isn't a union member.
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Very easy to verify who is an isn't a union member as all they do on here is bash the union.as for the op hes been banned on here a few times already under different usernames.an nobody believes hes a postie.
I'm a union member, yet totally agree with him, Ward Walsh Bouch need to go, their so far off the floor it's unbelievable, but and I mean no disrespect, I think folk like you on distribution are as well, if they brought back the sets from the 80s it would wake a few up. Sets back in the day were 1 week on indoor job, next week on delivery.
Is there any way we, as a collective, can get rid of this utterly shoddy pack of scumbags known as CWU and get all our subs swapped over to a decent union in one go?
Posties would probably be on minimum wage and zero hour contracts by now if not for the trade union. The cwu postal dept is for the most part made up of posties who have volunteered and were elected by their colleagues to improve our pay terms and conditions. Successfully against many attempts to screw us over. It's by no means perfect. But it's much much better than not having one.
But why don't you volunteer to be a rep if you're unhappy with it? If you're a postie.
-And to everyone in the forum, keep in mind that this is a public forum and there's no way to verify who is and isn't a union member.
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Very easy to verify who is an isn't a union member as all they do on here is bash the union.as for the op hes been banned on here a few times already under different usernames.an nobody believes hes a postie.
I'm a union member, yet totally agree with him, Ward Walsh Bouch need to go, their so far off the floor it's unbelievable, but and I mean no disrespect, I think folk like you on distribution are as well, if they brought back the sets from the 80s it would wake a few up. Sets back in the day were 1 week on indoor job, next week on delivery.
In processing. All jobs change.although i agree del are getting hammered
but I honestly believe RM will do everything they can to prolong the use of those on inferior contracts. If that happens, not only does it weaken any pay rise in the offing, but there is a real risk that this contract because the default - and eventually, the standard and that would a massive long term setback for all of us.
