Guaranteed it will eventually and rightly so. I'd be surprised if the CWU didn't address this fairly quick considering we aint allowed to be at the workplace under the influence in any way shape or formyellowbelly wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 17:04Stand corrected, it clearly does!Didn't spot that at the top of the LTB!
Wonder if it will come in for all though.
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LTB 001/25 – Royal Mail: Drugs & Alcohol Support & Rehabilitation Services and For-Cause Testing Pilot for Drivers in Wales
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Londonsburning
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Re: LTB 001/25 – Royal Mail: Drugs & Alcohol Support & Rehabilitation Services and For-Cause Testing Pilot for Drivers in Wales
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2chorizon
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It is only drivers in wales for the 8 week pilot vyellowbelly wrote: ↑07 Jan 2025, 17:04Stand corrected, it clearly does!Didn't spot that at the top of the LTB!
Wonder if it will come in for all though.
The For-Cause Pilot will commence on Monday 13th January 2025 for eight weeks and will be applicable to Drivers only, in Wales (excluding Parcelforce). We have built into the ToR joint weekly checkpoints with management and a mid-pilot joint review on Monday 17th February.
Royal Mail Group would ultimately like to roll out Drugs & Alcohol For-Cause testing across all grades in the UK. In these circumstances the Postal Executive felt that a Pilot was the best way to deal with these matters, supported by an agreed Terms of Reference with proper safeguards.
We really need the random testing element in place too though otherwise this "for cause" testing will just either rarely be invoked or used to target individuals.
It should also be noted that we have a Postal Executive policy surrounding our opposition to Random Testing for drugs & alcohol and we have informed Royal Mail management of this position.
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I hope managers will get tested eventually too. There’s a few in my office that likes to sniff toilet seats on a night out
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Newandscared
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So is this article blatantly saying that those that comply with the drugs and alcohol test in the pilot won't suffer a disciplinary if they are found to be under the influence???
I think CWU and LM's might need to understand something here, if the person is a non driver they may be allowed to avoid the disciplinary route, however if the person is a driver and has driven to work the day of the test and is then found to be under the influence, I think you are legally obliged to report them to the police, as you have evidence that they potentially drove to work that morning under the influence and they will likely drive home under the influence.
You have some serious reconsideration to do here on all fronts. I for one will not continue to work with anyone found under the influence of illegal drugs, I don't wish to be exposed to drugs in the workplace. The workplace is to be safe for ALL employees so the highest standards must be maintained. Disciplinaries and instant dismissal must be in place when it is proven that the person has used drugs or alcohol and then attended the workplace.
I think CWU and LM's might need to understand something here, if the person is a non driver they may be allowed to avoid the disciplinary route, however if the person is a driver and has driven to work the day of the test and is then found to be under the influence, I think you are legally obliged to report them to the police, as you have evidence that they potentially drove to work that morning under the influence and they will likely drive home under the influence.
You have some serious reconsideration to do here on all fronts. I for one will not continue to work with anyone found under the influence of illegal drugs, I don't wish to be exposed to drugs in the workplace. The workplace is to be safe for ALL employees so the highest standards must be maintained. Disciplinaries and instant dismissal must be in place when it is proven that the person has used drugs or alcohol and then attended the workplace.