LTB 343/24 – Royal Mail Introduction of New Drug and Alcohol Policy

[Londonsburning]

Every company has this procedure nothing new can't believe it's not already procedure with us driving vehicles

Think it'll be all distribution staff in MCs, all collections staff in both DOs and MCs, logistics/network staff. For delivery staff, don't know if it'll be just the drivers or everyone.

It'll be every OPG level employee without exception doesn't matter if you have a driving license or not. The whole point of this is in your contract it says something along the lines of "I will not show up for work under the influence"

[yubin282]

What's the problem ? Surprisingly not a bad idea from RM.

I've lost count the amount of times I've been on a van share and someone tells me "I'm not with it today, didn't get home until 2am"

I'm gonna presume its only alcohol they're consuming.

[teesdale]

The Royal Mail HR people seem to be getting very controlling recently. Texts at 2.45am every Sunday with add on threat for months now. Sociopath tests should be taken by all HR employees immediately,or they are going to cost this company a lot of money. Had a thing once that anyone going into the warehouse had to wear steel toe capped boots which you could borrow at the entrance from a communal pile of shoes. Of course it never happened because they always believe that every postman fits into a narrow type. They never realise who actually works here. At the entrance to the building is a sign saying welcome in many different languages. A language spoken by lots of people working here is missing. Must be lovely working at HR deciding how others should live their lives. There will be no one here who will take a test ever. Can see it as a bullying tool used by rogue managers. Thing with Royal Mail is that you couldnt trust the company with your medical results or sample. They will definately sell the information.

[qwerty2]

Start testing at the top - CEO

[dageneralkahn]

does this relate to agency workers too. so if your someone working via angard staffing , will they potentially drug test you. i work in a mc within one of the uk branches as an agency worker, i work as a porterer, i do scan inward work large parcels ive done everything but im a top porter at the mc the managers love when i come the night shift manager who runs the night operation said he would give me a contract in a heartbeat.

problem is i am a 10 year weed smoker who has always used it for health reasons mainly mental and use to recover from pains. you reckon this s**t will happen but if you stay outta trouble get on with work because weed doesnt affect me anymore and i work not being on the drugs on shift but i smoke it outside of working hours so i would really like some help on this. whether or not this relates to agency workers and how realistic is random drug testing because for cause testing i dont have any reason when i work that would give managers impression that im under the influence but the random drug testing i am worried about.

[Hyrrokkin]

I have no issues with this

However it must apply to everyone - top down

[redlen]

Smoking weed will stay in your system for up to a month and be detected.
Employers have a zero tolerance with substance abuse and you have no excuse if they terminate your employment as weed is still a criminal offence.

[theelegend701]

My mate got drink and drug tested by amazon the other week at random he had been smoking weed the night before no trace showed up in the test I believe you would only fail these tests if you were intoxicated

[Londonsburning]

My mate got drink and drug tested by amazon the other week at random he had been smoking weed the night before no trace showed up in the test I believe you would only fail these tests if you were intoxicated

Taking gear and he wouldve been f****d UK testing

[redlen]

Drug tests for cannabis — also known as marijuana, weed, or pot — measure THC and its metabolites. THC may be detected in blood or saliva 2–24 hours after use. Urine and hair tests have a longer detection window from 1–90 days after the last use.

[lshannon41]

What's the problem ? Surprisingly not a bad idea from RM.

I've lost count the amount of times I've been on a van share and someone tells me "I'm not with it today, didn't get home until 2am"

I'm gonna presume its only alcohol they're consuming.

It all depends on the testing methods to be honest. If it's swab testing I don't have too big a problem with it as I think you have to have done drugs in the last 24 hours to fail and obviously nobody should be turning up to work still under the influence. Urine testing on the other hand is more long term, and is more of an intrusion into people's personal lives.

[Barnacle]

What's the problem ? Surprisingly not a bad idea from RM.

I've lost count the amount of times I've been on a van share and someone tells me "I'm not with it today, didn't get home until 2am"

I'm gonna presume its only alcohol they're consuming.

It all depends on the testing methods to be honest. If it's swab testing I don't have too big a problem with it as I think you have to have done drugs in the last 24 hours to fail and obviously nobody should be turning up to work still under the influence. Urine testing on the other hand is more long term, and is more of an intrusion into people's personal lives.

It will be a breathalyser for drink and a swab for drugs.

[yubin282]

What's the problem ? Surprisingly not a bad idea from RM.

I've lost count the amount of times I've been on a van share and someone tells me "I'm not with it today, didn't get home until 2am"

I'm gonna presume its only alcohol they're consuming.

It all depends on the testing methods to be honest. If it's swab testing I don't have too big a problem with it as I think you have to have done drugs in the last 24 hours to fail and obviously nobody should be turning up to work still under the influence. Urine testing on the other hand is more long term, and is more of an intrusion into people's personal lives.

It will be a breathalyser for drink and a swab for drugs.

Might as well do a cavity search just to be sure.

[Newandscared]

Why delay it? Get in in and operational today.
I do not have to work with people who use illegal drugs.

My sentiments exactly. Isn't an employer legally and contractually obliged to provide a safe working environment for all employees? There's no problem at all in having drug and alcohol tests. I've changed career from a company that had them multiple times a year.

[Newandscared]

What's the problem ? Surprisingly not a bad idea from RM.

I've lost count the amount of times I've been on a van share and someone tells me "I'm not with it today, didn't get home until 2am"

I'm gonna presume its only alcohol they're consuming.

It all depends on the testing methods to be honest. If it's swab testing I don't have too big a problem with it as I think you have to have done drugs in the last 24 hours to fail and obviously nobody should be turning up to work still under the influence. Urine testing on the other hand is more long term, and is more of an intrusion into people's personal lives.

It will be a breathalyser for drink and a swab for drugs.

Might as well do a cavity search just to be sure.

Isn't swabbing for drugs a bit dodgy given that some people don't clean the vans after themselves? You can touch a contaminated surface or even something posted in the mail without having used or consumed.