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Any Good News From a Pilot Office?
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Mr Rush
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Re: Any Good News From a Pilot Office?
Around 20,000 (of ~100,000) by early 2024, based on press releases. It's harder to say as time goes on because any newer figures also include the thousands of new starts that quit.
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Barnacle
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Re: Any Good News From a Pilot Office?
Staffing overall has reduced. That Robin app they’re trying to get us all to use: it shows how many staff they have added and it is around 135,000. That’s us, management, and Parcelforce.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: Any Good News From a Pilot Office?
Is that all it includes? And what about PFSL staff? Are they included in your 135,000 guesstimate?
So how many CWU-grade employees are there by your reckoning?
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Barnacle
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Re: Any Good News From a Pilot Office?
It’s not MY guesstimate. RM have added all employees to Robin - whether those employees use it or not - and the number displayed in Robin is 135,000 and something. That includes PF and management.Smoothbackground wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025, 08:49Is that all it includes? And what about PFSL staff? Are they included in your 135,000 guesstimate?
So how many CWU-grade employees are there by your reckoning?
There’s no such thing as a ‘CWU grade employee’. If you want to know how many delivery staff there are and then how many of them are CWU members, you’ll need to find that out.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: Any Good News From a Pilot Office?
Ah! So finally a concession from you. Like me, you don’t know the precise numbers, do you?! Our resident fount of knowledge, the learned Barnacle, has run dry of “facts”.Barnacle wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025, 09:44It’s not MY guesstimate. RM have added all employees to Robin - whether those employees use it or not - and the number displayed in Robin is 135,000 and something. That includes PF and management.
There’s no such thing as a ‘CWU grade employee’. If you want to know how many delivery staff there are and then how many of them are CWU members, you’ll need to find that out.
PS - with PFSL I was on about Property and Facility Services…
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Barnacle
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Re: Any Good News From a Pilot Office?
Of course I know. No guesstimate required.Smoothbackground wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025, 10:04Ah! So finally a concession from you. Like me, you don’t know the precise numbers, do you?! Our resident fount of knowledge, the learned Barnacle, has run dry of “facts”.Barnacle wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025, 09:44It’s not MY guesstimate. RM have added all employees to Robin - whether those employees use it or not - and the number displayed in Robin is 135,000 and something. That includes PF and management.
There’s no such thing as a ‘CWU grade employee’. If you want to know how many delivery staff there are and then how many of them are CWU members, you’ll need to find that out.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Navalron
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Re: Any Good News From a Pilot Office?
WAP.Smoothbackground wrote: ↑08 Jun 2025, 04:10I was merely being satirical when Barnacle was reminding all subs-paying members to be eternally grateful for their lot and for all that the CWU does for them.Sean06 wrote: ↑07 Jun 2025, 22:07Does sound bitter to be honest.Barnacle wrote: ↑07 Jun 2025, 17:41Bitterness about a club you aren’t even in.Smoothbackground wrote: ↑07 Jun 2025, 16:23Duly noted and minuted. On account of this, let’s have three massive cheers for the CWU! And let’s all chant “Here for me and you! Long live the CWU!”Barnacle wrote: ↑07 Jun 2025, 12:40Can we all note as well, that if we didn’t have a union, we would all be working the pilot/trial delivery model now? We wouldn’t even have been consulted, it would simply have been rolled out long before now, they’re using ‘needing USO reform’ as an excuse to do what they want anyway.
Just to clarify — I have nothing at all to be ‘bitter’ about. Like 95% of the new-entrant cohort at my gaff, I am not a union member and so have never paid into the CWU coffers. The CWU hasn’t misled me or sold me down the river.
It is clear from other posts on here, though, that current CWU members are becoming increasingly upset and implacably hostile to their own club/union, hence Barnacle continually attempting to quell the disquiet and discontent. Perhaps ‘bitter’ is best used to describe them?
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Re: Any Good News From a Pilot Office?
From our previous interactions I do appreciate that spelling, punctuation and grammar aren’t exactly strong points of yours, but what does WAP mean? Is it similar to a “ned” or NED? Using what little imagination I have, I am currently interpreting WAP as a high-pitched (yet male) Glaswegian voice drunkenly screaming “What a prick!” Is this what you mean by WAP? Do I need to report your abuse to the mods?
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Re: Any Good News From a Pilot Office?
How do those bitter lemons taste Smooth?Smoothbackground wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025, 20:22From our previous interactions I do appreciate that spelling, punctuation and grammar aren’t exactly strong points of yours, but what does WAP mean? Is it similar to a “ned” or NED? Using what little imagination I have, I am currently interpreting WAP as a high-pitched (yet male) Glaswegian voice drunkenly screaming “What a prick!” Is this what you mean by WAP? Do I need to report your abuse to the mods?
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Re: Any Good News From a Pilot Office?
Are your debating skills so poor that you resort to baiting people, and is your comprehension of the rules so skewed that you think that us asking people to debate points not character means you can ignore us.
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Ex RAF here and if that was meant as what a prick then it also broke the rules and helped lock this thread.
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