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Townpostie
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Unpaid breaks

Post by Townpostie »

Is it not about time the union at least pushed for new contacts to have paid breaks like the old contracts with dm26 if we now want any break at all we will be finishing beyond 6pm while old contracts with a paid breaks finish at just gone 5 just shocking really can't see how anyone would be willing to stay much longer under those terms.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Unpaid breaks

Post by ted_e_bear »

Yes it needs bringing in line, how can you have two people working together with different finishing times, they could insist "legacy" contracts must take their full 40 min break as opposed to finishing on 20 minutes but that wouldn't cure the issue unless new contracts had to start 40 minutes early to compensate for taking their 40 minutes unpaid at the same time as their partner.

Easier all round to either give paid breaks to new contracts or remove them for everyone (with the obvious issues that would arise from that scenario)
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We’ve got a list of new contracts at ours who go on IP for 40 minutes before our start time so that they finish at the same time as legacy contracts. With all of that free labour, they won’t be changing the newer contracts any time soon. Disgraceful but that’s how it is. :no no
ted_e_bear
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Re: Unpaid breaks

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SMS1969 wrote:
01 Sep 2026, 18:39
We’ve got a list of new contracts at ours who go on IP for 40 minutes before our start time so that they finish at the same time as legacy contracts. With all of that free labour, they won’t be changing the newer contracts any time soon. Disgraceful but that’s how it is. :no no
That would work in theory hopefully they all stop working for 40 minutes daily for their breaks ?
mafiaman
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Re: Unpaid breaks

Post by mafiaman »

Wouldn't worry that s next thing unpaid breaks for everyone.Then there be looking at line managers who sit about doing f all.then not releasing union reps most of do f**k all anyway
SMS1969
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Re: Unpaid breaks

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ted_e_bear wrote:
01 Sep 2026, 18:56
SMS1969 wrote:
01 Sep 2026, 18:39
We’ve got a list of new contracts at ours who go on IP for 40 minutes before our start time so that they finish at the same time as legacy contracts. With all of that free labour, they won’t be changing the newer contracts any time soon. Disgraceful but that’s how it is. :no no
That would work in theory hopefully they all stop working for 40 minutes daily for their breaks ?
We leave 20 minutes before our finish time, as a local agreement, we are allowed to.Up to them whether they take the other 20, they should do, but you can be sure some if not all don’t.
guardianangel
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Blame the union ,we had the biggest mandate in union history and they caved in for a piece of the pie , biggest travesty in the 21st century.
Valentina@1
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Re: Unpaid breaks

Post by Valentina@1 »

guardianangel wrote:
03 Sep 2026, 06:17
Blame the union ,we had the biggest mandate in union history and they caved in for a piece of the pie , biggest travesty in the 21st century.
Agree,that day near parliament in London was all for nothing,leaves a taste,well and truly sold down river
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Re: Unpaid breaks

Post by tramssirhc »

Valentina@1 wrote:
03 Sep 2026, 14:41
guardianangel wrote:
03 Sep 2026, 06:17
Blame the union ,we had the biggest mandate in union history and they caved in for a piece of the pie , biggest travesty in the 21st century.
Agree,that day near parliament in London was all for nothing,leaves a taste,well and truly sold down river
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hans solo
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Sheep led by donkeys
2chorizon
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Re: Unpaid breaks

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The paid breaks issue is due for negotiation in january 2027 as part of the 2nd round of “equalisation of new contracts” talks.
(the first round got your pay equalised)
Townpostie
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Re: Unpaid breaks

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2chorizon wrote:
05 Sep 2026, 03:10
The paid breaks issue is due for negotiation in january 2027 as part of the 2nd round of “equalisation of new contracts” talks.
(the first round got your pay equalised)
I can't wait to see what they pull out of the hat for those talks they gave up our 1.25 overtime rate for a grand total of an extra 1% pay rise we are still well below pre 22. I would of been happy if they gave up the 1.25 for the paid breaks but now not really any leverage to use going into 2027
TopperGas
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Re: Unpaid breaks

Post by TopperGas »

2chorizon wrote:
05 Sep 2026, 03:10
The paid breaks issue is due for negotiation in january 2027 as part of the 2nd round of “equalisation of new contracts” talks.
(the first round got your pay equalised)
I'd put my money on unpaid breaks being rolled out to everyone before all employees breaks are paid.
Barnacle
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Re: Unpaid breaks

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Townpostie wrote:
01 Sep 2026, 17:39
Is it not about time the union at least pushed for new contacts to have paid breaks like the old contracts with dm26 if we now want any break at all we will be finishing beyond 6pm while old contracts with a paid breaks finish at just gone 5 just shocking really can't see how anyone would be willing to stay much longer under those terms.
There is a simple explanation as to why paid breaks was not number one on the agenda to sort and that’s because RM calculates how much it would cost them and their number is in the £millions.

Actually costs them nothing because new starts do take breaks and do finish at the same time as legacy, so all they would be doing is formalising what happens anyway. But they don’t calculate it like that when negotiating.

Barely any new contracts work overtime or a lot of overtime. So the union calculated that an hourly rate increase would benefit them all.
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