DPR drops per Hour

[MylesBolton]

Any documents or agreements showing what the drops per hour should be?

Also is there any way to get incorrect information updated on the maps e.g. the whole town being marked down as 30mph when most of it is 20mph or am I just wishing for too much.

[ted_e_bear]

I've never used it but I thought you scanned the parcels into the delivery app whatever it's called and it calculated the route and time it will take so the amount per hour will vary depending on geography of the area.

As far as the speed limits are concerned I thought the app had changed to being powered by TomTom so presumably it'll update in due course

@smoothbackground on here is very well clued up regarding dpr perhaps she'll see your question.

[tramssirhc]

Any documents or agreements showing what the drops per hour should be?

Also is there any way to get incorrect information updated on the maps e.g. the whole town being marked down as 30mph when most of it is 20mph or am I just wishing for too much.

The CWU have failed to get an item per hour figure. This started when it's members refused to engage with the call rate count because 'its not my job to tell them' was the attitude. The clued by workers gave a figure which brought them some breathing room.

The last time the CWU said anything about a call rate it was that clown Tony Boulch and he said 50 per hour. That's one item every minute or so. Boulch has never had to do that so ignore him.

What you can do per hour depends on how you work. Do the job properly and it could be 20 per hour. Years ago it was around this figure when we rarely had items that required an attendance. Carve the job up and you'll do whatever the PDA says you can do. If that was 50 an hour then thats what you will do every time.

Yes you can get the speed limits adjusted. Ask if they are correct in the planning and if they have changed ask that they are updated. Again this is something the CWU and its members refused to do because planning wasn't thier job.

[MylesBolton]

Yes you can get the speed limits adjusted. Ask if they are correct in the planning and if they have changed ask that they are updated. Again this is something the CWU and its members refused to do because planning wasn't thier job.

Who do I ask in my DO to get them changed, other than my manager, is there some IT contact for data like speed limits and incorrect address locations.

[tramssirhc]

Yes you can get the speed limits adjusted. Ask if they are correct in the planning and if they have changed ask that they are updated. Again this is something the CWU and its members refused to do because planning wasn't thier job.

Who do I ask in my DO to get them changed, other than my manager, is there some IT contact for data like speed limits and incorrect address locations.

There should be a 'champion'. Try the COM support.

[Smoothbackground]

I’m blushing at the compliment, Ted

My take on it is that there can be no set number of drops per hour as there are simply too many factors at play. Are the drops “tight”, eg a sector or cluster, or spread out? Delivering in daylight or at night? Traffic conditions? Weather? Tired and disengaged postie but still an acceptable pace or one raring to go? Day of delivery (as people are more likely to be home on certain days)? Oversized/heavy parcels or a mix of smaller and larger? Rural, suburban or inner city? Etc, Etc.

Achieving even 10 drops an hour on a rural route might be impossible, yet 25, 30 or even more an hour may be easily achievable, even at a sedate pace, on a road with inbuilt parcel boxes (we have a new-build development of “executive homes” where every property has its own parcel box!!). In central London, for example, where I worked for years before relocating, you might spend 20 minutes navigating a one-way system just to make one delivery. Just too many variables.

Ultimately, if the ad-hoc/PRO manifest estimates that it will take, for example, 5 hours, a manager can’t then argue or insist it can be done quicker. In certain cases the postie might in fact argue it will take way longer than the time estimated by the route-planner — it can often be massively out.

[postmanplod2025]

who cares work to time

[Sean06]

who cares work to time

Maybe the op cares an thats why they are asking the question??

[qwerty2]

who cares work to time

Maybe the op cares an thats why they are asking the question??

We’re not donkeys or robots

[ted_e_bear]

who cares work to time

Maybe the op cares an thats why they are asking the question??

Exactly, maybe the op is being hassled by a clown manager telling them they should be doing 50 per hour or something equally ridiculous.

[Sean06]

who cares work to time

Maybe the op cares an thats why they are asking the question??

Exactly, maybe the op is being hassled by a clown manager telling them they should be doing 50 per hour or something equally ridiculous.

No doubt there.

[twoloops]

Our DPR drivers were told 20 per hour, but that was soon dropped to 15

[iHateD2Ds]

The PDA Route optimisation estimates 3 mins per parcel, so 20 per hour...

Remember ...Dedicated Parcel Routes generally have oversize parcels which do not slip through the letter box.

[ted_e_bear]

The PDA Route optimisation estimates 3 mins per parcel, so 20 per hour...

Remember ...Dedicated Parcel Routes generally have oversize parcels which do not slip through the letter box.

I'd say that's a good ballpark average for "town" type areas, I worked my day off on parcels this week and I did 22 in 40 minutes for a duty on an open plan estate but only about 12 in an hour when I went to an older part of town, busy roads nowhere to park etc.

[Smoothbackground]

The PDA Route optimisation estimates 3 mins per parcel, so 20 per hour...

Remember ...Dedicated Parcel Routes generally have oversize parcels which do not slip through the letter box.

It estimates a three-minute interval between addresses less than 100 metres or so apart, so on this basis no manager can reasonably demand any more than 20 stops an hour - maximum - as they aren’t in a position to contradict what the PDA estimates it as. When the drops are further apart it does — or should — give you longer than three minutes between each drop.

By way of example, my first semi-rural route today had 34 drops (43 items) and an estimated duration of 2.8 hours (2hrs 49 mins) according to the Ad-hoc Route Planner, which equates to 12 stops an hour, but because of horses and cyclists, plus a closed country lane, it actually took just over three hours, ie, about 11 drops an hour. Distance - according to the route-planner - was 23.9 miles, with a supposed driving time of 2hrs 23mins and a total route time of 2hrs 49mins. In this instance the planner gives less than a minute on each doorstep!