Xmas bonus

mondeo1 · Post by **mondeo1** » 22 Nov 2018, 15:19

Anyone know if we all getting a cash bonus this year,I've not heard anything on the great vine yet?

Mask · Post by **Mask** » 22 Nov 2018, 15:32

Usual 200£ and pro rata for part timers Is what I’ve heard from our manager

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 22 Nov 2018, 15:49

mondeo1 wrote:Anyone know if we all getting a cash bonus this year,I've not heard anything on the great vine yet?

Should have looked on the grape vine

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... as#p831207" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

4 Christmas Pay Supplement
The Christmas pay supplement of £100 for full time OPG and OSGs, pro-rated for part
timers and 35-hour full timers (subject to the arrangements in Section 7) will be paid on
Friday, 21st December. The eligibility criteria for the Christmas supplement payment will be
the same as last year, based on the four December weeks (commencing Monday, 26th
November). In the unlikely event of any Industrial Action the abatement criteria will be
drawn from the PBS agreement.
The separate payment of £100 (pro rata for PT and 35hr full time employees) agreed in the
National Joint Statement - New Incentive Arrangements June 2012 will also be paid on
Friday, 21st December. As in previous years, any necessary top up payments for Part Time
or 35 hr Full time employees will be made in January 2019 in accordance with the actual
hours worked at standard rate, beyond contractual during 2018

jennie-c · Post by **jennie-c** » 22 Nov 2018, 17:36

What about if you're on maternity leave? Do you still get the bonus?

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 22 Nov 2018, 17:47

jennie-c wrote:What about if you're on maternity leave? Do you still get the bonus?

Yes (if paid https://www.cwu.org/media/6690/cwu__129 ... acts_r.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) - the Christmas Bonus is only affected when you go to reduced pay or go on strike.

To preempt the next question - you do get paid if you go sick over Christmas unless they stop your pay.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 22 Nov 2018, 23:52

Regarding being off sick over the Xmas period I'm not sure that the bonus isn't lost if you are off sick then. A couple of years ago a postie in our office was off sick and lost his bonus. I am currently off sick recovering from a minor operation and will lose the bonus if I don't go in to work next week. My health is more important than the money though so I will take the advice of the medical staff.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 23 Nov 2018, 06:22

The Royal Mail pay directive states :

Part-time employees are entitled to the Xmas supplement on a pro rata basis. They will receive the payment pro rata to a full time week according to their contracted hours on the date payment is made. Part-time employees that vary their contractual hours and work full time for a two week period during the Christmas pressure period will be paid the full Christmas supplement.

Eligibility for payment is linked to employment during the Christmas pressure period.

For each full week, an individual receives no pay during the pressure period ( eg unpaid special leave etc ) the individual will lose one-quarter of the supplement.

For each full week where basic pay is reduced for sick pay pension rate, the individual will lose one-quarter of the supplement.

For each full week where basic pay is reduced for sick half pay the individual will lose one - eighth of the supplement

For each day counted midnight to midnight excluding bank holidays on which an employee takes unofficial industrial action their supplement will be abated by 10%
for official action, it will be abated by 3%

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 23 Nov 2018, 07:03

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
mondeo1 wrote:Anyone know if we all getting a cash bonus this year,I've not heard anything on the great vine yet?
Should have looked on the grape vine https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... as#p831207" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

4 Christmas Pay Supplement
The Christmas pay supplement of £100 for full time OPG and OSGs --> , pro-rated for part
timers and 35-hour full timers <-- (subject to the arrangements in Section 7) will be paid on
Friday, 21st December. The eligibility criteria for the Christmas supplement payment will be
the same as last year, based on the four December weeks (commencing Monday, 26th
November). In the unlikely event of any Industrial Action the abatement criteria will be
drawn from the PBS agreement.
The separate payment of £100 (pro rata for PT and 35hr full time employees) agreed in the
National Joint Statement - New Incentive Arrangements June 2012 will also be paid on
Friday, 21st December. As in previous years, any necessary top up payments for Part Time
or 35 hr Full time employees will be made in January 2019 in accordance with the actual
hours worked at standard rate, beyond contractual during 2018

So are they actually saying that those on the 35hrs "full time contracts" are actually part time? Doesn't affect me but for those that it does affect, if they are officially classed as "full time" then shouldn't they get the full bonus payment and not pro-rata?

Post by **rogersh** » 23 Nov 2018, 09:22

It does not affect me either but I agree with you that 35 hours "Full-time" is contradictory. To add to the confusion several 35 hour contracts were issued to staff at our RDC with Part-time written as opposed to FT.
I am awaiting a further update response from a CWU/PEC member who has stated;
"Subject to Terry clearing our document, we will be sending a proposal to Royal Mail regarding the above in the next few days. This picks up the point you made about the contracts."

Monty9120 · Post by **Monty9120** » 20 Dec 2018, 20:25

Hi all been doing the job 4 months had 2 bonuses of 75 pounds each my contract is 28.5 hours but I’ve been doing full time for at least the last 3-4 weeks one week over 50. Will I be due more?

jd9442 · Post by **jd9442** » 20 Dec 2018, 20:51

You got scammed by the manager

postmanzach · Post by **postmanzach** » 20 Dec 2018, 21:33

I got 100 and then 85 as something incentive. I’m on temporary full time contract so was expecting full 200. Been cleaning up easy ot so not too bothered but wonder why it’s dofferent?!

Monty9120 · Post by **Monty9120** » 20 Dec 2018, 21:57

jd9442 wrote:You got scammed by the manager

With the quotes above it says some are due in January I was just asking. Your comments don’t help

yellowbelly · Post by **yellowbelly** » 21 Dec 2018, 18:54

postmanzach wrote:I got 100......

- Correct (as detailed below)

The Christmas pay supplement of £100 for full time OPG and OSGs, pro-rated for part
timers and 35-hour full timers (subject to the arrangements in Section 7) will be paid on
Friday, 21st December. The eligibility criteria for the Christmas supplement payment will be
the same as last year, based on the four December weeks (commencing Monday, 26th
November). In the unlikely event of any Industrial Action the abatement criteria will be
drawn from the PBS agreement.

and then 85 as something incentive. I’m on temporary full time contract so was expecting full 200. Been cleaning up easy ot so not too bothered but wonder why it’s dofferent?!

- see below - you've been on temp FT hours for Xmas but if you're a PT'er normally, then the top-up amount you get depends on what OT at standard rate you've worked throughout the year - not just Xmas. (This info is from this year's Xmas arrangements documentation).

The separate payment of £100 (pro rata for PT and 35hr full time employees) agreed in the
National Joint Statement - New Incentive Arrangements June 2012 will also be paid on
Friday, 21st December. As in previous years, any necessary top up payments for Part Time
or 35 hr Full time employees will be made in January 2019 in accordance with the actual
hours worked at standard rate, beyond contractual during 2018.

samp71 · Post by **samp71** » 21 Dec 2018, 20:11

I started on 5th December did I miss the qualifying weeks?