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Our rules on bank holidays have been around for years and have not changed. What should happen is that, when a bank holiday falls on someone’s rest day, they should be given another day off that week. If that is not operationally sensible or is impracticable the people involved can have a day added to their holiday allocation or claim the hours as normal weekday overtime.
The benefit of our bank holidays is that they give everyone additional time off so when someone does not take their bank holiday due to it coinciding with their rest day the norm should be to try to give them another day off. Where that is impossible they can take the time as normal overtime, but of course this would not give them time off which was the intention of the bank holiday.
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
With a bank holiday looming, our reserves are all bracing themselves to have Monday as their day off.
Obviously our manager will say the workload won't allow a day off in the same week because the D/O relies on overtime,
so who gets to choose
A: a day credited (8) in total over the year, which most can never book off at a later date
B: book the time that week as overtime which will bust the managers budget?
It doesn't say "The manager can" it says "you can". To me that means the choice is yours.
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I told my manager today that I'd take the pay rather than an extra days holiday that I would never get to take. They said that its only if you actually work on the Bank holiday that you get the choice!!
Dubboy wrote:I told my manager today that I'd take the pay rather than an extra days holiday that I would never get to take. They said that its only if you actually work on the Bank holiday that you get the choice!!
He is wrong or he is trying to bamboozle you - You can
Involve the Union. Print off
Bank holiday pay.PNG
and push to get what you are entitled to.
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GoingPostal86 wrote:What if you are off on paternity when the bank holiday hits?
You lose it. Paternity, Sick, Maternity and bank holidays are all statutory and you can't have 2 days statutory holiday based on the same day. So you only get it back when its your day off, or its when you are on annual leave. At least thats my understanding.
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world class male wrote:With a bank holiday looming, our reserves are all bracing themselves to have Monday as their day off.
Obviously our manager will say the workload won't allow a day off in the same week because the D/O relies on overtime,
so who gets to choose
A: a day credited (8) in total over the year, which most can never book off at a later date
B: book the time that week as overtime which will bust the managers budget?
Looking at next weeks rota, my day off is bank holiday monday!
Bank and public holidays
In Royal Mail:
• If you’re not scheduled to work on a Bank holiday, you’ll receive the equivalent number of hours as a
credit to the hours you would have worked.
^^^^^^^ that's interesting.
My Duties on a Monday include one hour of Overtime - the overtime never gets paid on a B/H Monday. I've been waiting for the E.A.T. appeals to go one way or another before I address this issue.........BUT, if I am interpreting the above correctly, I should be getting that hours overtime paid no matter what.
Well our dom flat out refused to pay it as overtime in front of our area rep too.I had this printed out and showed them and it made no difference,the area rep said we have to agree with the manager a different day off and if we cannot agree to one then it can be paid as overtime... what a load of crap.It clearly states if they cannot offer you an alternative day the SAME week then i can take it as overtime ffs.What is the point in all this if the bloody area rep cannot even enforce it?? I ended up getting monday off the following week instead.It felt to me like the rep hadno power at all and the dom just simpy said "you are not having it as overtime mate"
Iasked for a date 2 months away and was refused,i asked for another and was refused so i said "ok then as we cannot agree i will take it as overtime" but still NOTHING the rep said what about the following week? Why am i even paying the union if they cannot even enforce policies that are clearly stated?
2pints wrote:Well our dom flat out refused to pay it as overtime in front of our area rep too.I had this printed out and showed them and it made no difference,the area rep said we have to agree with the manager a different day off and if we cannot agree to one then it can be paid as overtime... what a load of crap.It clearly states if they cannot offer you an alternative day the SAME week then i can take it as overtime ffs.What is the point in all this if the bloody area rep cannot even enforce it?? I ended up getting monday off the following week instead.It felt to me like the rep hadno power at all and the dom just simpy said "you are not having it as overtime mate"
Iasked for a date 2 months away and was refused,i asked for another and was refused so i said "ok then as we cannot agree i will take it as overtime" but still NOTHING the rep said what about the following week? Why am i even paying the union if they cannot even enforce policies that are clearly stated?
2pints wrote:Well our dom flat out refused to pay it as overtime in front of our area rep too.I had this printed out and showed them and it made no difference,the area rep said we have to agree with the manager a different day off and if we cannot agree to one then it can be paid as overtime... what a load of crap.It clearly states if they cannot offer you an alternative day the SAME week then i can take it as overtime ffs.What is the point in all this if the bloody area rep cannot even enforce it?? I ended up getting monday off the following week instead.It felt to me like the rep hadno power at all and the dom just simpy said "you are not having it as overtime mate"
Iasked for a date 2 months away and was refused,i asked for another and was refused so i said "ok then as we cannot agree i will take it as overtime" but still NOTHING the rep said what about the following week? Why am i even paying the union if they cannot even enforce policies that are clearly stated?
"Just say it" e-mail time, me thinks.
And cc uncle Bobby re area rep.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been. My BFF Clash The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
2pints wrote:Well our dom flat out refused to pay it as overtime in front of our area rep too.I had this printed out and showed them and it made no difference,the area rep said we have to agree with the manager a different day off and if we cannot agree to one then it can be paid as overtime... what a load of crap.It clearly states if they cannot offer you an alternative day the SAME week then i can take it as overtime ffs.What is the point in all this if the bloody area rep cannot even enforce it?? I ended up getting monday off the following week instead.It felt to me like the rep hadno power at all and the dom just simpy said "you are not having it as overtime mate"
Iasked for a date 2 months away and was refused,i asked for another and was refused so i said "ok then as we cannot agree i will take it as overtime" but still NOTHING the rep said what about the following week? Why am i even paying the union if they cannot even enforce policies that are clearly stated?
quite a few of our union members don't help the rest of us with their illogical working practices, they are there solely to look after #1
but reps can be weak too, ours seems to agree to everything, he definitely isn't there to look after #1, we pay our subs!
i often wonder if they are milking as much as they can when the royal mail/cwu union is no more in a few years.
our next pay rise will be about £4 per week, not from royal mail but from cancellations of the union subs.
don't they realise their days are numbered too?
I ended up getting monday off the following week instead.It felt to me like the rep hadno power at all and the dom just simpy said "you are not having it as overtime mate"