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Forcing me to use my car to other office.

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Forcing me to use my car to other office.

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I have just had a call on my dayy off from a dom.Asking me to go to another office tomorrow,i said that is fine i will be at my usual office at 9am,a discussion then started in which he pointed out to me that i work for royal mail and they can make me take my car to another office as they are paying mileage.I stuck to my guns and he implied if i come to my usual office in morning and do not follow through with the "reasonable request" i will be in trouble.

Now he seems very confident that i am in the wrong but i have read on here alot on this subject and i was under the impression they need to provide me with transport,i even satated my car insurance is not covered etc but he said it was?
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your car insurance should cover you to travel to and from work no matter where your place of work is
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You're right and he's wrong.
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so is there any agreements on this matter, many members in my office are being forced to use their own cars to travel to others offices based on operational needs and the distance of other offices is the same as parent office.
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car insurances covers you from your Home to your normal contracted place of work.

if you are going to different delivery offices you will need business cover added to your insurance. ( I have this due to being a rep )

you are right in what you say, you start at your home office at your normal start time, and if they want you to work elsewhere, they must either give you a van to take with you OR transport you there and also transport you back to your home office to arrive at just before your finish time ( if you have had your full meal breaks )

don't let your dom bully you into using your car to go to another office.

even if you are not in the Union, ( join it ) the same rules apply across RM.
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Go in-refuse-get suspended-have a few days off with pay-result!
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miles_peters wrote:your car insurance should cover you to travel to and from work no matter where your place of work is
Not if its just covers Commuting

http://www.confused.com/car-insurance/a ... ses-of-use" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Provides cover as above for social, domestic and pleasure, and also cover to drive back and forth to a permanent place of work. Travelling to a railway station en route, where the car is parked, is classed as commuting. In addition, dropping someone else off at their place of work may also be classed as commuting – so it is worth checking the policy beforehand to double-check.

…And if the vehicle is being used in connection with work beyond simply commuting, then the insured will require a level of business cover:
Business use: Class 1
This will cover the vehicle in connection with your job, such as driving to different sites away from your place of work. It may also cover a spouse for the business use, but not another named driver – so be sure to check the insurer’s wording. It will exclude commercial use (such as delivery of light goods) and selling (such as door-to-door). All other drivers on the policy get social, domestic, pleasure and commuting use as shown above.
Business use: Class 2
There are a number of variations of Class 2 depending on the insurance provider. The policy will usually cover both the policyholder and a named driver for the business use, although some insurers may stipulate that the two must work in the same occupation. Class 2 will still exclude commercial use and selling.
Business use: Class 3
This will provide business cover for the transportation of light goods (e.g. meal or flower delivery), and some selling purposes (such as door-to-door sales).
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Stella102 wrote:so is there any agreements on this matter, many members in my office are being forced to use their own cars to travel to others offices based on operational needs and the distance of other offices is the same as parent office.
Yes its the Flexibility Agreement http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... ty#p654429" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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and unless they have class 1 business use on their insurance they are NOT covered to drive their own vehicle to another place of work.
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Please peeps get your reps on to this,some of you are being screwed over big time,if no rep then go to branch.
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Before suggesting he gets suspended I would look at his contract of employment.
If he is employed as an Area reserve then his office is where they say it is.
He doesn't have to drive there but he does have to be at work on time.

While you might all have contracts that stipulate your parent office, not everybody does.
The poster might, but it would be as well to check.
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motherhubbard wrote:Before suggesting he gets suspended I would look at his contract of employment.
If he is employed as an Area reserve then his office is where they say it is.
He doesn't have to drive there but he does have to be at work on time.

While you might all have contracts that stipulate your parent office, not everybody does.
The poster might, but it would be as well to check.
I have just transfered from another office and as such have not got a new contract through post yet,but the contract i have says i may be required to work in nearby offices but it says nothing about transport.My fixed term contract is due to end at the end of this month so i should get something soon either way.The thing is i am not even in the union,i filled a form in and handed it to the union rep at my prvious office but have never had payments taken or any confirmation of being a member.

I have just filled in a form from the web and emailed it off so hopefully will be a member soon.There is no rep at our office at the moment either so looks like i am going to be on my own in morning when facing the angry doms. :roll:
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And i said i would be at my usual office at 9am which is my start time,he said i need to be at the other for 9am but its a 30 min drive and i have 2 kids to sort out too. :arrrghhh
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Just make your rep is going to be on site at 9 am when you arrive at your home do.
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zx135 wrote:Just make your rep is going to be on site at 9 am when you arrive at your home do.
As stated i have no rep. :cry
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2pints wrote:
zx135 wrote:Just make your rep is going to be on site at 9 am when you arrive at your home do.
As stated i have no rep. :cry
Then call the area rep and make sure he is going to be there or he gets someone to represent him there ie rep from another office