WTL , later starting times to go ahead August 13th

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 03 Jul 2007, 12:29

At WTL 2day, we where told that as from August 13th 2007 are starting times will be changing.. Town walks which start at 5am-now be 6am, rural men 6.15am-7.15 am..We where given sheets to state our preference i.e, ones who want vol redundancy, or drop in hours, or if it didnt suit due to any other reason i.e. family commit , they said about being transferred to the mail centre...ummm. Didnt think they shud be trying to set dates while we r in dispute.. looks like they will anyhow..

Wilbur Spoons · Post by **Wilbur Spoons** » 03 Jul 2007, 13:02

How will they cope if EVERYONE opts for the mail centre?

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 03 Jul 2007, 13:19

Wilbur Spoons wrote:How will they cope if EVERYONE opts for the mail centre?

lol..good point Wilbur Spoons!!!!

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 03 Jul 2007, 13:38

madelin4 wrote:At WTL 2day, we where told that as from August 13th 2007 are starting times will be changing.. Town walks which start at 5am-now be 6am, rural men 6.15am-7.15 am..We where given sheets to state our preference i.e, ones who want vol redundancy, or drop in hours, or if it didnt suit due to any other reason i.e. family commit , they said about being transferred to the mail centre...ummm. Didnt think they shud be trying to set dates while we r in dispute.. looks like they will anyhow..

Get your branch to fight it. This is one of the 'strings'. It amounts to a pay cut. We've had late starts since October because we were lied to and told the mail would be arriving later. Of course this hasn't happened and we could easily revert to 05.00 from the stupid 06.30 we're now on. Watch out in forthcoming Work Time Lying for a film showing the Happy Campers at Runcorn DeliveryOffice telling all how great the late starts are. Needless to say they only picked compliant idiots and refused to let anyone holding the opposite view a say. The people they chose to interview are the type who would tell the enemy where the escape tunnel is for an extra bowl of soup. Watch out for the one with the beady eyes who resembles a rat.

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 03 Jul 2007, 14:11

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
madelin4 wrote:At WTL 2day, we where told that as from August 13th 2007 are starting times will be changing.. Town walks which start at 5am-now be 6am, rural men 6.15am-7.15 am..We where given sheets to state our preference i.e, ones who want vol redundancy, or drop in hours, or if it didnt suit due to any other reason i.e. family commit , they said about being transferred to the mail centre...ummm. Didnt think they shud be trying to set dates while we r in dispute.. looks like they will anyhow..
Get your branch to fight it. This is one of the 'strings'. It amounts to a pay cut. We've had late starts since October because we were lied to and told the mail would be arriving later. Of course this hasn't happened and we could easily revert to 05.00 from the stupid 06.30 we're now on. Watch out in forthcoming Work Time Lying for a film showing the Happy Campers at Runcorn DeliveryOffice telling all how great the late starts are. Needless to say they only picked compliant idiots and refused to let anyone holding the opposite view a say. The people they chose to interview are the type who would tell the enemy where the escape tunnel is for an extra bowl of soup. Watch out for the one with the beady eyes who resembles a rat.

on that note, just wondering do we still get our early morning shift all for 3 years? i havnt heard if our union man is fighting it for us or not. i must find out.I didnt fill out my form anyway.

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 03 Jul 2007, 14:20

madelin4 wrote:
IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
madelin4 wrote:At WTL 2day, we where told that as from August 13th 2007 are starting times will be changing.. Town walks which start at 5am-now be 6am, rural men 6.15am-7.15 am..We where given sheets to state our preference i.e, ones who want vol redundancy, or drop in hours, or if it didnt suit due to any other reason i.e. family commit , they said about being transferred to the mail centre...ummm. Didnt think they shud be trying to set dates while we r in dispute.. looks like they will anyhow..
Get your branch to fight it. This is one of the 'strings'. It amounts to a pay cut. We've had late starts since October because we were lied to and told the mail would be arriving later. Of course this hasn't happened and we could easily revert to 05.00 from the stupid 06.30 we're now on. Watch out in forthcoming Work Time Lying for a film showing the Happy Campers at Runcorn DeliveryOffice telling all how great the late starts are. Needless to say they only picked compliant idiots and refused to let anyone holding the opposite view a say. The people they chose to interview are the type who would tell the enemy where the escape tunnel is for an extra bowl of soup. Watch out for the one with the beady eyes who resembles a rat.
on that note, just wondering do we still get our early morning shift all for 3 years? i havnt heard if our union man is fighting it for us or not. i must find out.I didnt fill out my form anyway.

Depending on your length of service, you will get it for three years or one year for newer people. Either way it's a pain in the backside and more so on Saturdays.
My advice is to get a good attendance record, then if you need a Saturday for anything, just go sick.

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 03 Jul 2007, 14:23

Yea iww fellow worker thing is if take 2 seperate 1 dayers it brings us up a stage...i got a stage 1 5 months ago so am still working my way out of that!! sure they said about the short and longs so sat mite not be as bad as the rest of the days if tues and sat will be the short days..

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 03 Jul 2007, 14:25

We didn't even get a WTLL session today our assistant DUM just shouted over the office that the later starts would be starting in August and that himself and the DUM will be having 1to1's with all the staff so they could explain it properly. I can only see this as a devide and conquer tactic by telling anybody whatever lies they want to hear (I know that I'll either not be included or be bullied and harrassed until I shut up).

I am currently totally disillusioned with the whole lot but I'll fight to the bitter end to oppose them, I'm quite prepared to stand alone against them but I don't know how long I can sustain it (but I'll have a good go).

Post by **evilc** » 03 Jul 2007, 15:11

madelin4 wrote:At WTL 2day, we where told that as from August 13th 2007 are starting times will be changing.. Town walks which start at 5am-now be 6am, rural men 6.15am-7.15 am..We where given sheets to state our preference i.e, ones who want vol redundancy, or drop in hours, or if it didnt suit due to any other reason i.e. family commit , they said about being transferred to the mail centre...ummm. Didnt think they shud be trying to set dates while we r in dispute.. looks like they will anyhow..

Totally agree with IWW, your rep should be registering disagreement and flagging it to area, all these preference slips should be returned incomplete whilst we are still in dispute.

Post by **evilc** » 03 Jul 2007, 15:12

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:We didn't even get a WTLL session today our assistant DUM just shouted over the office that the later starts would be starting in August and that himself and the DUM will be having 1to1's with all the staff so they could explain it properly. I can only see this as a devide and conquer tactic by telling anybody whatever lies they want to hear (I know that I'll either not be included or be bullied and harrassed until I shut up).

I am currently totally disillusioned with the whole lot but I'll fight to the bitter end to oppose them, I'm quite prepared to stand alone against them but I don't know how long I can sustain it (but I'll have a good go).

1to1's are voluntary, just don't go near any meeting to discuss unagreed changes.

Post by **the beautiful bd south** » 03 Jul 2007, 15:58

acording to our managers wtl's sessions for this week have been cancelled nationally due to Fridays industrial action.
obviously another lie to go with the rest

Post by **evilc** » 03 Jul 2007, 16:03

the beautiful bd south wrote:acording to our managers wtl's sessions for this week have been cancelled nationally due to Fridays industrial action.
obviously another lie to go with the rest

At least you have a week off from listening to their Bullshit.

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 03 Jul 2007, 16:45

evilc wrote:Totally agree with IWW, your rep should be registering disagreement and flagging it to area.

It was our rep who held a meeting in the canteen and told us all we had no choice and might as well accept the later start times. Just talking to the lads on the picket line, there are a few who were for it last October who no longer want it. Once this dispute is over, I've asked the sub rep to bring the matter up. The sub rep is absolutely straight, which is why managers hate the sight of him.

ulster postie · Post by **ulster postie** » 03 Jul 2007, 17:02

dont worry disgruntledpostie1 hear,s one who will stand with you

ONWARDS AND UPWARDS

bristolchris · Post by **bristolchris** » 03 Jul 2007, 18:01

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:We didn't even get a WTLL session today our assistant DUM just shouted over the office that the later starts would be starting in August and that himself and the DUM will be having 1to1's with all the staff so they could explain it properly. I can only see this as a devide and conquer tactic by telling anybody whatever lies they want to hear (I know that I'll either not be included or be bullied and harrassed until I shut up).

I am currently totally disillusioned with the whole lot but I'll fight to the bitter end to oppose them, I'm quite prepared to stand alone against them but I don't know how long I can sustain it (but I'll have a good go).

Why should you be on your own? Must be others in your Office who feel as you do?

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