Forced Break

[Laura703]

We have been told as of next week our whole (very large) office is to have our break at 8:30-8:50. As a part timer I will be on shift for an hour then I’ll have to have my break and then work 6 hours straight through without another break. On a Wednesday which is a later start I’ll be in 30 minutes before having to take my break. I know the law is quite vague as it just says you can’t have a break at the start or the end of a shift but surely within an hour of starting isn’t right? Also there is no way all the staff will fit in the canteen.

[redlen]

https://www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work

Working six hours or more


Employers can say when employees take rest breaks during work time as long as:

the break is taken in one go somewhere in the middle of the day (not at the beginning or end)

workers are allowed to spend it away from their desk or workstation (this means away from where they actually work)
It does not count as a rest break if an employer says an employee should go back to work before their break is finished.

[POSTMAN]

It's not a 1 size fits all, your rep/s should know this.

[apple]

its a local agreement, when and how you have your break, talk to the rep

[redlen]

its a local agreement, when and how you have your break, talk to the rep

Local agreements cannot take precedence over the Working Time Regulations
Those Regulations are specific in what the employer can, and cannot do.

[2chorizon]

its a local agreement, when and how you have your break, talk to the rep

Local agreements cannot take precedence over the Working Time Regulations
Those Regulations are specific in what the employer can, and cannot do.

This ^

& get together with your rep and state you need a break when out on the walk not be forced to take it all before you go out (see my other thread on DM26 fatigue)

Also there is a piece in the way forward agreement allowing for grace “allowances should be made for the chance to take a cup of tea before going out on delivery”

if i find it i will post it up here

[2chorizon]

I will get you the exact wording from the way forward agreement 2000

& you will get an additional 10 mins grace break with the “chance to take a cup of tea before going out on delivery”

+ then you will get to take a 40 min break (or pro rata if part time) when out on the walk.

+ this will prevent getting pulled in and questioned as to why your PDA was static for 18 min & 23secs during the round (or some such sh*t)

Standby…….

[2chorizon]

Okay not one to dwell for long…
Here we go, From the way forward agreement 2000:

Breaks at the beginning or end of attendance
Where an attendance is provided with more than one break, the second break may be scheduled at the beginning or end, in which case attendance is not required solely for booking on or off. A single break should not be scheduled at the beginning or end of the attendance,

Grace Breaks
When work permits a grace break of 10 minutes, over and above the standard entitlements, should be allowed on all indoor and outdoor jobs. In no circumstances should this be scheduled. Where it is not possible to provide a grace break before going out on first delivery the employee should be given the chance to have cup of tea before leaving the office.

[2chorizon]

Full link here: v

https://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... t-2000.pdf

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[nightcrawler]

We’ve had a similar setup in our office for a few years now. On a Tuesday - where we start a little later - our break is only 1 hour and 5 mins after we start! Most of the week our break ends at 9.35, then we have to work 6 hours on a wed/thurs to the end of our shift.