What do you all really think the future is.

[scotchy1962]

Gone 6 months now and retired for 2, i still regularly hear what is going on as my younger brother is still a postie and i live in my old office delivery area.
I have no wish to tell anyone what way this business needs to be run, it has nothing to do with me personally.
What interests me, from the outside looking in on this forum, is where you all believe it is going and what the future is going to look like.
From what i read and hear nobody seems to really know what the way forward looks like, not good for you or the general public, but then again the general public have had since covid to kick off about the poor service and unless something goes missing i think we can agree they don't give a feck.
So in reality it's going to be down to the poor downtrodden postie to pick up the reins.
The union appears to not have a answer to the USO problem, and although they attempt to solve the workload issues in the end it doesn't work, they are so out of touch with the realities on the frontline that they just think it must be somebody elses fault.
So again it's back to the postie.
Kretinsky doesn't give a feck he just wants the parcels so he can make lots of money, frankly that's what he is here for and how it happens he doesn't really care.
I agree that the union does indeed deserve a certain amount of criticism, but not the amount it gets as its hands are tied to a certain extent being as how the members have voted through a couple of poor pay awards with poor strings attached and seeing as how i was in the union at the time i must accept some critique as well. I apologise to you all.
Ok thats all the crud out of the way, i am interested to hear any reasonable ideas about how to go forward.
If you all could manage to not play the blame game or fingerpoint so that perhaps something of worth comes out i would be grateful.
Remember its in all your interests to get a job that is equal and also achievable so that your physical and mental health lasts until you all join me in retirement.

[norris9]

1. I'd like to think that once the USO plans are put in motion nationwide, Royal Mail will be providing a 'better service' that will avoid the fines they have been getting from Ofcom.

2. Right now things are mostly good in the office I work in. Duties are manageable most of the time, but we still end up with 2 days mail after our day off.

3. The problem with the USO change is that I believe managers will bring out the hammer of death again, giving everyone grief for not completing. Right now it doesn't matter so much as 2nd class mail can roll over to the next day.

4. I have no idea if Kretinsky wants rid of mail - from what I can see we still deliver tonnes of it. Other than working differently as part of the USO reform - I don't see any other big changes in the near future. Possibly Kretinsky will try to downsize offices to reduce rents / sell off land.

AI is not a threat to a posties job.....you would have thought the internet and email would have wiped letters out, but no, here we are 25+ years later delivering tonnes of mail.

[tramssirhc]

The only problem we face is the CWU. Once we have a union that is independent and organised the rest will sort itself out. There is no immediate prospect of major USO change. Mail is here to stay for the foreseeable future. The only possibility is that the government is forced to use it's golden share to takeover the mail operation. Otherwise we're going to carry on as we are for sometime.

[TooManyLoops]

Split into two

1 - Mail, 3 or 4 mornings a week, PT 6 hours a day if 4 and on a sunset system, 5 years could drop to 2 or 3 days and so on

2 - Packets over 2 shifts, 6am - 2pm and 2pm - 10pm. A PT ndoor crew scanning them into DPR

They could even close some DOs, move 2 or 3 DOs into a big one for mail and move DPRs to purpose industrial units

Merge Parcel Force fully into Royal Mail, rebranded Royal Mail Packets

Reality, boy with the finger in the dyke, and business as normal

[Gary55]

Shared van most people lucky to get mail once a week. Always waiting ages for the last lorry

Only people getting done come in very early and take no breaks. DOM is a clueless power mad twat. Rest of the Managers OK and despair of him and deliveries too big and forced through at last revision

I know we have a start and finish blah blah but it's just ridiculous and depressing

[Wullie10]

As I reached retirement age they never offered reduced hours or a different way of working. They could have easily made letter only rounds for plodders who just wanted to walk a few hours a day.. That's letters out of the way . Obviously rural would be a different matter. Years later and they still haven't a clue what to do. I suspect letters once a week if at all eventually. Problem is politicians who've never worked ( most of them ) bowing to the outraged Daily Mail crowd who demand Mail everyday for a 20p first class letter ,even though they probably haven't written a physical letter in the last 10 years.
When early morning delivery was changed to later in the day the public were going crazy. Now everyone accepts late mail. In the same way the public are now getting used to delivery of letters once or twice a week. They really want the parcel they purchased on the web the previous day. Scanned every few miles and delivered. I blame the politicians 100%. But as I say most have never ran a bussiness so haven't got a clue how the world works.

[TopperGas]

As I reached retirement age they never offered reduced hours or a different way of working. They could have easily made letter only rounds for plodders who just wanted to walk a few hours a day.. That's letters out of the way . Obviously rural would be a different matter. Years later and they still haven't a clue what to do. I suspect letters once a week if at all eventually. Problem is politicians who've never worked ( most of them ) bowing to the outraged Daily Mail crowd who demand Mail everyday for a 20p first class letter ,even though they probably haven't written a physical letter in the last 10 years.
When early morning delivery was changed to later in the day the public were going crazy. Now everyone accepts late mail. In the same way the public are now getting used to delivery of letters once or twice a week. They really want the parcel they purchased on the web the previous day. Scanned every few miles and delivered. I blame the politicians 100%. But as I say most have never ran a bussiness so haven't got a clue how the world works.

At present there's no way we could just deliver mail once or twice a week, he really still needs to be delivered at least every other day, that's the flaw with the ODM, delivering 3 days mail, particularly, after the two light days, Monday & Tuesday, still means a over 90% call rate.

What's a bit surprising is the company's recent decision to start delivering 1c mail daily when since COVID it's been allowed to just remain in the frame with 2c/DSA mail until we get around to delivering it, it's clear somebody is now concerned about the ever increasing OFCOM fines &/or customers complaining..

[Mr Rush]

What's a bit surprising is the company's recent decision to start delivering 1c mail daily when since COVID it's been allowed to just remain in the frame with 2c/DSA mail until we get around to delivering it, it's clear somebody is now concerned about the ever increasing OFCOM fines &/or customers complaining..

The government waived through the sale of IDS/RMG and need the company to offer up at least a fob of a service to keep renationalisation at bay.

[Jb1969]

After 5 years the current agreement finishes.

1-Sell off properties.
2-Contract out distribution, voc & maintenance.
3-Self employed posties will start to appear.
4-1st class will be to expensive to use or not in existence.

By that time thankfully I will be gone.

[TopperGas]

What's a bit surprising is the company's recent decision to start delivering 1c mail daily when since COVID it's been allowed to just remain in the frame with 2c/DSA mail until we get around to delivering it, it's clear somebody is now concerned about the ever increasing OFCOM fines &/or customers complaining..

The government waived through the sale of IDS/RMG and need the company to offer up at least a fob of a service to keep renationalisation at bay.

The Government haven't worried about service for the last 5 years so why worry about it now, unless RM ever give up on mail renationalisation is never likely to happen whilst DK owns the company, more likely he'll ask for some kind of funding.

[TopperGas]

After 5 years the current agreement finishes.

1-Sell off properties.
2-Contract out distribution, voc & maintenance.
3-Self employed posties will start to appear.
4-1st class will be to expensive to use or not in existence.

By that time thankfully I will be gone.

There's no evidence DK is an asset stripper at any other companies he owns?

A next day mail service of some kind will always be required.

[SpacePhoenix]

I think for letters and flats it might end up with some sort of hub where people collect their mail from, with only packets being delivered.

What's a bit surprising is the company's recent decision to start delivering 1c mail daily when since COVID it's been allowed to just remain in the frame with 2c/DSA mail until we get around to delivering it, it's clear somebody is now concerned about the ever increasing OFCOM fines &/or customers complaining..

Do you reckon that was around about when MCs started sending 1C and 2C in separate trays both from outward MC to inward MC and from inward MC to DOs?

[fadetogrey63]

I know we have a start and finish blah blah but it's just ridiculous and depressing
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Totally agree with this, I keep seeing everyone say just fin on time, but it is just relentless, day after day you just keep playing catch up, trying to get the tracked done, the 1st class, the collections, specials post boxes, lockers, and a few loops of mail to try and make your next day a bit easier, but of course, the next day is exactly the same! your right, it gets depressing and getting up each morn is even more depressing! oh I forgot about the d2d, bloody 5 we have for next week!

[menditsa]

There is no future, start at 1pm go home at 7pm, deliver what I can anything brought back is not my problem.

Repeat rinse everyday.

[twoloops]

Don't worry about it, turn up, do your time, go home, one day you'll be stone dead & it will be a lot sooner than you think