From the CWU Live Youtube last night...
Martin Walsh:
"There's a recruitment and retention payment ranging from £5 to £35 per week to 30,000 of our legacy staff, so again new entrants would have to get that".
Ok, so I am a postie on the old terms and conditions, but I am not aware of this recruitment and retention payment. As far as I am aware I do not get this payment.
Can anyone explain who gets this payment, my assumption is this is either probably a payment that was stopped 7+ years ago, or is a payment that is given once a postie has been at Royal Mail for a certain amount of years?
As far as I am aware 'legacy staff' is anyone of us who has the older terms and conditions that joined before the last strikes we had.
I am curious that maybe some legacy staff are not getting this recruitment and retention payment and surely will therefore get it if the CWU agree that new entrants (those that joined after the last strike we had) will get it too.
Can someone also explain why some posties get £5 and some get more?
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Recruitment & Retention Payment
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CornishCracker
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Payment
It's often used in areas where employing staff is generally challenging, its an incentive payment to recruit and retain staff.
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goldy2007
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Payment
Is that the Ics supplement?
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norris9
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Payment
ok, cheers.CornishCracker wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 09:23It's often used in areas where employing staff is generally challenging, its an incentive payment to recruit and retain staff.
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SkiSunday
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Payment
Were RM paying this bonus to new recruits before the 2022 "new start" poverty wages?CornishCracker wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 09:23It's often used in areas where employing staff is generally challenging, its an incentive payment to recruit and retain staff.
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Martin Walsh
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Payment
In 1988 Royal Mail had a resourcing crisis where they could not recruit or retain staff in London and South East and Home Counties.
They wanted to introduce regional pay bargaining rather than national pay bargaining where everyone gets the same pay rise. This was called the DRAS dispute.
We had an all out strike which lasted three weeks for some and two for the some.
We protected national pay bargaining but it was agreed to introduced Recruitment and Retention payments for those area with difficult recruitment and retention payments call RRIS. There are 6 bands and the different bands have different amounts from £5 to £35 per week. This have not increased with pay rises.
They wanted to introduce regional pay bargaining rather than national pay bargaining where everyone gets the same pay rise. This was called the DRAS dispute.
We had an all out strike which lasted three weeks for some and two for the some.
We protected national pay bargaining but it was agreed to introduced Recruitment and Retention payments for those area with difficult recruitment and retention payments call RRIS. There are 6 bands and the different bands have different amounts from £5 to £35 per week. This have not increased with pay rises.
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2chorizon
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Payment
You also do not get RRIS in northern ireland.
As Martin said above It depends where you are in the UK.
I’m not in London but get about £10 p/w RRIS
As Martin said above It depends where you are in the UK.
I’m not in London but get about £10 p/w RRIS
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hans solo
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Payment
The way the company is heading we will all be due this payment
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CornishCracker
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Payment
SkiSunday wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 15:19Were RM paying this bonus to new recruits before the 2022 "new start" poverty wages?CornishCracker wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 09:23It's often used in areas where employing staff is generally challenging, its an incentive payment to recruit and retain staff.
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norris9
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Payment
Is this what's also called 'London weighting' ?Martin Walsh wrote: ↑01 Aug 2025, 20:59In 1988 Royal Mail had a resourcing crisis where they could not recruit or retain staff in London and South East and Home Counties.
They wanted to introduce regional pay bargaining rather than national pay bargaining where everyone gets the same pay rise. This was called the DRAS dispute.
We had an all out strike which lasted three weeks for some and two for the some.
We protected national pay bargaining but it was agreed to introduced Recruitment and Retention payments for those area with difficult recruitment and retention payments call RRIS. There are 6 bands and the different bands have different amounts from £5 to £35 per week. This have not increased with pay rises.
and out of curiosity - is it London / South East / Home counties that are still the hardest for Royal Mail to recruit in?
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Oscar_Grouch
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Payment
I don't think that was a recruitment thing, just the realisation that the cost of living in that part of the country requires a higher pay rate.
Many years ago I used to live in a town on the the London to Brighton line, and while the pay where I am now comfortably covers the rent on a 1 bed house, with driveway and decent garden, it would barely stretch to a room in a house share situation back there today.
When I read the words Recruitment and retention my mind immediately jumped to Shetland. I recall hearing a lot about issues up there in the not too distant past and a quick Google search does suggest the Scottish islands in general are suffering badly from a lack of staff
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heapsy
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Re: Recruitment & Retention Payment
I didn't know about this payment, and I'm a 30+ yrs postie. I'm not in the S.E. but interestingly enough, our office suffers with this issue. Many new recruits are from a few miles away, as housing costs locally, mean that few locals can afford to work for RM.