Working Your Day Off

pickaname · Post by **pickaname** » 13 Sep 2008, 11:22

We were told this morning that if we choose to work our day off we have to come in at 07:50 instead of the normal time of either 6:50, 6:40 or 6:20 (you dont do inward sorting on your day off now anyway so 30 or 40 mins were taken off the official start time anyway). No overtime can be claimed on your day off from now on.

My question is this:

HOW DOES THE MANAGEMENT EXPECT STAFF TO PREP AND COMPLETE A WALK IF THEY ARE COMING IN AT 7:50 to finish at 13:58?

NWpostie · Post by **NWpostie** » 13 Sep 2008, 12:01

refuse to work your day off, I never work my day off, its too precious, I want to relax and chill and not get stressed about work.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 13 Sep 2008, 12:21

As NWpostie says if you agree and can accept their rules then work your day off. If you don't agree and you cant do it within their limitations, then refuse their request politely.

If everyone says sorry, I have something planned and you are not paying enough they will get the message. After all overtime is always voluntary (except SA) and they cannot force you to do it.

BoltonPostie · Post by **BoltonPostie** » 13 Sep 2008, 12:33

So your not doing Inward sorting so in effect your doing what Part timers do anyway,whats the problem?
In our office part timers don`t come in till 8.15 and most seem to manage to get out ok and finish for 14.00.
Your not one of them Full timers who come in a few ahhhem minutes early to `get a start` are you.

pickaname · Post by **pickaname** » 13 Sep 2008, 13:01

BoltonPostie wrote:So your not doing Inward sorting so in effect your doing what Part timers do anyway,whats the problem?
In our office part timers don`t come in till 8.15 and most seem to manage to get out ok and finish for 14.00.
Your not one of them Full timers who come in a few ahhhem minutes early to `get a start` are you.

So youre saying that it is possible to throw off an 800+ drop walk in under 2 hours, cycle to a delivery possibly 4 miles away and return in time for a 13:58 finish? Who are you Usain Bolt?

The walks in your office must be a piece of piss...

NWpostie · Post by **NWpostie** » 13 Sep 2008, 13:04

pickaname wrote:
BoltonPostie wrote:So your not doing Inward sorting so in effect your doing what Part timers do anyway,whats the problem?
In our office part timers don`t come in till 8.15 and most seem to manage to get out ok and finish for 14.00.
Your not one of them Full timers who come in a few ahhhem minutes early to `get a start` are you.
So youre saying that it is possible to throw off an 800+ drop walk in under 2 hours, cycle to a delivery possibly 4 miles away and return in time for a 13:58 finish? Who are you Usain Bolt?

The walks in your office must be a piece of piss...

If your delivery has a problem, the man to speak to is your Union rep and put your delivery in for a revision.

BoltonPostie · Post by **BoltonPostie** » 13 Sep 2008, 13:17

pickaname wrote:
BoltonPostie wrote:So your not doing Inward sorting so in effect your doing what Part timers do anyway,whats the problem?
In our office part timers don`t come in till 8.15 and most seem to manage to get out ok and finish for 14.00.
Your not one of them Full timers who come in a few ahhhem minutes early to `get a start` are you.
So youre saying that it is possible to throw off an 800+ drop walk in under 2 hours, cycle to a delivery possibly 4 miles away and return in time for a 13:58 finish? Who are you Usain Bolt?

The walks in your office must be a piece of piss...

Well you could always transfer and find out,but then again we don`t like slow coaches here who mither about working their days off,obviously your not that knackered then.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 13 Sep 2008, 13:21

Ahem - MODERATOR HAT ON.

This thread is getting a tad personal the Original Poster asked for advice not sarcastic comments. Any advice out there.

not me · Post by **not me** » 13 Sep 2008, 13:26

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:As NWpostie says if you agree and can accept their rules then work your day off. If you don't agree and you cant do it within their limitations, then refuse their request politely.

If everyone says sorry, I have something planned and you are not paying enough they will get the message. After all overtime is always voluntary (except SA) and they cannot force you to do it.

they tried to cut the paid hours in our office for OT
eg 2 hours for 1/2 a walk and saying D2D's had to be taken as well
however once nobody took any OT they soon chaged their minds

NWpostie · Post by **NWpostie** » 13 Sep 2008, 13:28

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Ahem - MODERATOR HAT ON.

This thread is getting a tad personal the Original Poster asked for advice not sarcastic comments. Any advice out there.

agreed, I would prefer to offer practical advice and it is up to the Original Poster to take them or not, thats what we are all here for, to help each other, this forum is here for us, "we each of us may not know everything, but together we do !"

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 13 Sep 2008, 13:42

If RM don't want to pay you for a full day then you just don't do it, I don't do it anymore and I won't be doing it a Christmas (all they'll get from me is 40 hours).

robd · Post by **robd** » 13 Sep 2008, 14:13

This has been happening in our D.O. for at least 12 months,they used to offer full shift,then it became 6hours(no ips)
now you only get 5 hours!
we have to absorb the prep,although for some reason if your on a driving duty you still get the full 8 hours.

silverback · Post by **silverback** » 13 Sep 2008, 14:51

I continue to repeat this "A union is only as strong as its members". Get a local cwu meeting, all agree not to work your days off unless paid full hours. You might lose out for a couple of weeks...but when management cant get walks covered they will have to pay full hrs.

pickaname · Post by **pickaname** » 13 Sep 2008, 15:31

silverback wrote:I continue to repeat this "A union is only as strong as its members". Get a local cwu meeting, all agree not to work your days off unless paid full hours. You might lose out for a couple of weeks...but when management cant get walks covered they will have to pay full hrs.

Makes sense to me...ill be talking to the rep on Monday. I just dont see how or why RM are only offering 6 hours for a duty that should take 8.18 hours.

axeman · Post by **axeman** » 13 Sep 2008, 20:39

Belive the agency charges are in excess of £250 + the wages for the man they supply so you can guess that it's around must be around £550 to £600 per week