I have been asked to go to another office about 45 minutes away from mine because they are short of staff , i am the carer of my wife ,but work full time .It is only for 1 day but my wife is wheelchair bound and only can stand to go to number 2 ,she has a catheter for the other , she has fallen down a few times over the years but my round is only 20 minutes away to get to her . If i go to this other office i would be on tenderhooks im stressed enough working full time and coming home to be a carer. i stated this to my manager to no avail .Is there anything in the unions paperwork that says if i refused it would be classed a a reasanable rquest ?
Thanks !
Will
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Reasanable request
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theargyspy
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Re: Reasanable request
Someone with more experience than me on this will hopefully come on and offer better advice, but I would suggest you do as you are requested but make it as difficult as possible, do a search on here for more info but to start with
make sure that you start your working day at your normal office at your official start time
they need to provide you with a van to get to the other office
and you finish at your official finish time at your normal office
so doing all the above just make it a complete PITA for them and they will pick on someone else
good luck
make sure that you start your working day at your normal office at your official start time
they need to provide you with a van to get to the other office
and you finish at your official finish time at your normal office
so doing all the above just make it a complete PITA for them and they will pick on someone else
good luck
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Reasanable request
Your manager is being a twat. (What a surprise)
If your wife has a disability then he has to make reasonable adjustments to your duty to accommodate that but you should have made this clear before.
Get your rep involved and your Branch Equality Officer.
If your wife has a disability then he has to make reasonable adjustments to your duty to accommodate that but you should have made this clear before.
Get your rep involved and your Branch Equality Officer.
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HTPostman
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Re: Reasanable request
I’d also add make sure you give the van a very thorough check (which we all do anyway, of course), and log it off if you find anything which makes it not roadworthy. They will soon move onto someone else.theargyspy wrote: ↑25 Feb 2022, 17:35Someone with more experience than me on this will hopefully come on and offer better advice, but I would suggest you do as you are requested but make it as difficult as possible, do a search on here for more info but to start with
make sure that you start your working day at your normal office at your official start time
they need to provide you with a van to get to the other office
and you finish at your official finish time at your normal office
so doing all the above just make it a complete PITA for them and they will pick on someone else
good luck
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jd9442
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Re: Reasanable request
How is this not reasonable?
You start at your office at your start time and you finish at your office on your finishing time
You start at your office at your start time and you finish at your office on your finishing time
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SillyBilly
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Re: Reasanable request
Its the aspect of me being able to get to my wife withinn a reasonable time if she had a fall because of her disability. Is it called a care of duty to me ?
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Re: Reasanable request
Just tell them you don’t consider that a reasonable request and refuse.
If he has been informed of your current caring responsibility then nothing will come of it. He might threaten you will conduct etc that’s how they usually like to do it but it’s all hot air. He knows it won’t go anywhere because he would be in the s**t once other people get involved and look at your case.
If he has been informed of your current caring responsibility then nothing will come of it. He might threaten you will conduct etc that’s how they usually like to do it but it’s all hot air. He knows it won’t go anywhere because he would be in the s**t once other people get involved and look at your case.
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crazyshrew
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Re: Reasanable request
This is covered in the equality act.
Disability by association /associative disability.
It is an unreasonable request for you because of the potential risk and harm it would cause.
It would not be an unreasonable request for someone else to be sent to the other office
Disability by association /associative disability.
It is an unreasonable request for you because of the potential risk and harm it would cause.
It would not be an unreasonable request for someone else to be sent to the other office
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Haditup
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Re: Reasanable request
You certainly can refuse ,you have taken the job because the geographic position suits your wife’s disability needs.
State your objection verbally and in writing if they persists.
If they offer you no choice which forces you to resign from the job then a claim for constructive dismissal would be pending.
State your objection verbally and in writing if they persists.
If they offer you no choice which forces you to resign from the job then a claim for constructive dismissal would be pending.
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Re: Reasanable request
The rule of thumb for working in other offices is, volunteers 1st, followed by reserves. That should be enough.
It was in their propaganda when pay&mod came in.
And as mentioned, start at your office end at your office in duty time.
With regards to reserves, every office should have a reserve list in seniority order, and I would guess if this happens a lot then possibly those peeps on a rota.
That should be the norm but obviously the OP's situation pushes this to one side.
It was in their propaganda when pay&mod came in.
And as mentioned, start at your office end at your office in duty time.
With regards to reserves, every office should have a reserve list in seniority order, and I would guess if this happens a lot then possibly those peeps on a rota.
That should be the norm but obviously the OP's situation pushes this to one side.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Wolf91
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Re: Reasanable request
This is good advice. I did exactly this years ago. Made it a complete waste of time for them, they lent me a van too because I refused to use my own car on travel to & from said office.theargyspy wrote: ↑25 Feb 2022, 17:35Someone with more experience than me on this will hopefully come on and offer better advice, but I would suggest you do as you are requested but make it as difficult as possible, do a search on here for more info but to start with
make sure that you start your working day at your normal office at your official start time
they need to provide you with a van to get to the other office
and you finish at your official finish time at your normal office
so doing all the above just make it a complete PITA for them and they will pick on someone else
good luck
By the time I got to the office I had about 2 hours delivery, maybe less before having to return back.
Remember as well, be back at your own office on your finish time, not the office your loaned to.
So half 1 finish, you’d ideally want to Be finishing duty at 12:30 hypothetically speaking of course, in order to return to the loaned office, pouch off, drive van back to your own office.
They won’t bother with you again if you do all this, which is well within your rights. They didn’t with me.
They might get a bit tetchy but who cares
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Kenfandango
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Re: Reasanable request
Had a similar request recently, told them we'd only got one car and my wife was using it (the depot is walking distance from my house.) They made out that the job description required me to have my own vehicle. It doesn't, as I showed them. Then they said they'd let me take a van but I had to be at the other depot at my start time. I said no, I'll start in this depot and drive from here thanks.
Anyway they gave up and got someone else to do it
Anyway they gave up and got someone else to do it