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Proposed management structure in Delivery.

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Greater focus on time with colleagues including time when colleagues are out on delivery.

Is it me or does that not make sense? Spend time with them but erm but not when they are actually with you?
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Perhaps when we tell them we're cutting off they come out with us to give us a hand? :shock:
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Well, if they're increasing the money that DOMs are paid. They must be moving towards Cluster managers for smaller offices.

40-47k to manage a small DO, is far, far too much money, for what they do.
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1200 delivery offices and 1950 com roles.Doesnt sound like a very micro-managed team you would have.
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So what we have now then with fancy new titles and a pay rise?
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"Switched off" Yes most of them are. :roll:
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You want managers bonuses linked to the trust survey, in my DO the trust in local line managers scored 80%, whereas trust in senior management was 24%. If you are going to base our bonuses on the trust survey will you remove the senior management score as we have no control over that ?
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Murdoch wrote:
22 Feb 2022, 13:11
Well, if they're increasing the money that DOMs are paid. They must be moving towards Cluster managers for smaller offices.

40-47k to manage a small DO, is far, far too much money, for what they do.
Apparently there will be no overall DOM in an office, each COM will control between 30-32 duties controlling all of the activities in their sector from budget, overtime, lapsing, performance to sick absence and annual leave.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
22 Feb 2022, 18:13
Murdoch wrote:
22 Feb 2022, 13:11
Well, if they're increasing the money that DOMs are paid. They must be moving towards Cluster managers for smaller offices.

40-47k to manage a small DO, is far, far too much money, for what they do.
Apparently there will be no overall DOM in an office, each COM will control between 30-32 duties controlling all of the activities in their sector from budget, overtime, lapsing, performance to sick absence and annual leave.
Doesnt really fit in to the whole smaller teams thing does it really.Cant see how's it much different to now.
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There is often a clear conflict between a managers budgetary and resourcing decisions and a greater proactive focus on the customer. From experience giving staff more indoor and outdoor work to do in a shorter time usually results in mistakes being made and customer complaints. Thats what happens when staff are dashing around trying to get things done.

And if a manager tries to contact me while I'm out on delivery I certainly won't be available. One of the very best things about the job is when you get out on delivery you feel like you are your own boss away from the b*llocks that usually goes on in a delivery office
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postslippete wrote:
22 Feb 2022, 20:22
And if a manager tries to contact me while I'm out on delivery I certainly won't be available. One of the very best things about the job is when you get out on delivery you feel like you are your own boss away from the b*llocks that usually goes on in a delivery office
If they wanted to they could call you on the PDA
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SpacePhoenix wrote:
22 Feb 2022, 20:58
postslippete wrote:
22 Feb 2022, 20:22
And if a manager tries to contact me while I'm out on delivery I certainly won't be available. One of the very best things about the job is when you get out on delivery you feel like you are your own boss away from the b*llocks that usually goes on in a delivery office
If they wanted to they could call you on the PDA
They could...but have we had the relevant WTL about how to answer a phone call on said PDA?

Tricky thing this technology.... :chuckle
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
22 Feb 2022, 18:13
Murdoch wrote:
22 Feb 2022, 13:11
Well, if they're increasing the money that DOMs are paid. They must be moving towards Cluster managers for smaller offices.

40-47k to manage a small DO, is far, far too much money, for what they do.
Apparently there will be no overall DOM in an office, each COM will control between 30-32 duties controlling all of the activities in their sector from budget, overtime, lapsing, performance to sick absence and annual leave.
Yeah, I get that. What will happen with smaller DOs with significantly less duties than that?

One COM responsible for duties across two or more locations?
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Murdoch wrote:
23 Feb 2022, 14:40
Woody Guthrie wrote:
22 Feb 2022, 18:13
Murdoch wrote:
22 Feb 2022, 13:11
Well, if they're increasing the money that DOMs are paid. They must be moving towards Cluster managers for smaller offices.

40-47k to manage a small DO, is far, far too much money, for what they do.
Apparently there will be no overall DOM in an office, each COM will control between 30-32 duties controlling all of the activities in their sector from budget, overtime, lapsing, performance to sick absence and annual leave.
Yeah, I get that. What will happen with smaller DOs with significantly less duties than that?

One COM responsible for duties across two or more locations?
It's possible, it happens already but more likely small DOs will be looked at for merger opportunities... again.
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