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traww
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USO

Post by traww »

Just a bit bored and decided to have a look at the postcomm website and found this interesting.

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Universal service

The universal service means that anyone in the UK can post letters and parcels to any other part of the country at the same affordable rates. And it guarantees one delivery of mail for every UK household and business, each working day, and one collection of mail, six days a week.

Royal Mail's licence requires it to provide universal postal services.

Unquote

http://www.psc.gov.uk/universal-service.html

What is the definition of a working day? is it Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu & Fri? or Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri & Sat?

If it is Mon - Sat, then why is the wording different for delivery (each working day) to that of collections (Six say a week). Is there some wool being pulled by someone? Does this mean that RM could unilaterally (a la pension changes) impose deliveries only Mon - Fri?

Lots of ???'s I know, but it just stuck out a mile - I have had a couple of glasses of wine so reading the finer details is a little too much right now and sorry if this appears in archives.
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Post by DGP1 »

Saturdays are not included in the USO for delivery but to lose it would mean getting rid of 1/6th of staff :no no
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traww
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Wtrong end of the stick

Post by traww »

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:Saturdays are not included in the USO for delivery but to lose it would mean getting rid of 1/6th of staff :no no
Yeah I know that, thats not what I am asking, I don't want that anymore than you (although the odd Saturday off would be nice (our office is fixed day off)), the questions are more about the phrasing of the statement. I have been told, wrongly if the wording of the text is correct, that RM would like to drop Sat deliveries but can't because Postcomm and USO forbid it. Taken literally this quote seems to indicate the opposite. Does it leave the door open for RM to do this unilaterally.

That is what I am trying to discuss here.
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Post by DGP1 »

:cfo :lfo don't want to drop Saturdays because the big posters like to have mail drop through peoples doors on a Saturday (because people are more likely to take the time to look at it).
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saturday reply

Post by peterloo »

dangerous al has said he is not interested in dropping sat deliveries postcomm have said we offer arolls royce service compaired to the rest of europe because we deliver six days aweek it is to be disscussed at phase 3 of flexi agreement but i am pretty sure neither side wants to give up saturday deliveries so unless we are ordered to by goverment it wont happen even then it would have to be agreed in parliament
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Post by plodsie »

http://www.psc.gov.uk/about-postcomm.html

Our job is to make sure licensed postal operators – including Royal Mail – meet the needs of their customers throughout the UK.

We do this by:

* Protecting the universal service - The universal service means that anyone in the UK can post letters and parcels to any other part of the country at the same affordable rates. And it guarantees daily delivery of mail for every UK household and business, six days a week, and one collection per day, every day except Sunday.


To protect the USO, they must protect the company who has it... doesn't look like they are doing that does it?
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traww
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contradiction

Post by traww »

Correct me if I am wrong but does:

http://www.psc.gov.uk/universal-service.html (.........t guarantees one delivery of mail for every UK household and business, each working day, and one collection of mail, six days a week.)

Contradict;

http://www.psc.gov.uk/about-postcomm.html (....it guarantees daily delivery of mail for every UK household and business, six days a week, and one collection per day, every day except Sunday.)

or is Saturday a working day (see the council, bin men etc don't think so), or am I just a bit thick?

Read my earlier posts this is not about me wanting to end Saturday delivery, although I overheard a conversation this morning that once flexi is fully implemented we will be hammered for covering absentees on Saturdays and there looks to be little room for dodging it.
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Post by DGP1 »

In my DO we agreed that Saturdays were excluded from all the new arrangements.
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