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Back pay if you have left the business

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Bahia Feliz
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Back pay if you have left the business

Post by Bahia Feliz »

From the pay deal,if you have left/retired from RM between last April and now are you still entitled to the back pay etc pro rate?
Asking for about a dozen friends 😀
P13
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Re: Back pay if you have left the business

Post by P13 »

Bahia Feliz wrote: ↑
14 Feb 2021, 08:19
From the pay deal,if you have left/retired from RM between last April and now are you still entitled to the back pay etc pro rate?
Asking for about a dozen friends 😀
You needed to be in post on December 18th to get any back pay
koolishy67
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Re: Back pay if you have left the business

Post by koolishy67 »

If you left before 18 Dec you won't get
Bahia Feliz
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Re: Back pay if you have left the business

Post by Bahia Feliz »

Cheers i'll pass the answer on :thumbdown
burton76
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Re: Back pay if you have left the business

Post by burton76 »

People are suggesting RM says you have to be employed on 18th December 2020. However, the law seems to say differently. You are entitled because you worked it - it isn't based on your relationship with your employer on the 18th December 2020.

Just because an employer says we are doing it this way, doesn't mean that is what is right in law.

Google, 'Back Dated Pay Deals' - the money is owed to those who worked there at that time this seems to have applied every time it has happened in the country.

It would take a very arrogant and self loving employer to go against what is lawfully right.

Write to the employer and request it, as I will be doing. If they refuse, find out on what grounds. You need this in writing.

If they say no, you have the option to raise an employment tribunal to request the unpaid wages. A judge would soon decide but the evidence is available that it is payable. Employment tribunals for unpaid wages are simple, and quick and you could easily do it yourself. Turn up with evidence you worked there on those dates. Take a copy of the agreement stating employees are due 2.5% pay rise from the 6th April 2020 and I bet your sweet bippin a judge would award you the money.
Blue432
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Re: Back pay if you have left the business

Post by Blue432 »

What if you left delivery in Oct but still work in RM?
Chupacabra74
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Re: Back pay if you have left the business

Post by Chupacabra74 »

Will it be paid automatically if you left after the 18th or do you have to claim it?
loyalsnail
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Re: Back pay if you have left the business

Post by loyalsnail »

burton76 wrote: ↑
14 Feb 2021, 13:28
People are suggesting RM says you have to be employed on 18th December 2020. However, the law seems to say differently. You are entitled because you worked it - it isn't based on your relationship with your employer on the 18th December 2020.

Just because an employer says we are doing it this way, doesn't mean that is what is right in law.

Google, 'Back Dated Pay Deals' - the money is owed to those who worked there at that time this seems to have applied every time it has happened in the country.

It would take a very arrogant and self loving employer to go against what is lawfully right.

Write to the employer and request it, as I will be doing. If they refuse, find out on what grounds. You need this in writing.

If they say no, you have the option to raise an employment tribunal to request the unpaid wages. A judge would soon decide but the evidence is available that it is payable. Employment tribunals for unpaid wages are simple, and quick and you could easily do it yourself. Turn up with evidence you worked there on those dates. Take a copy of the agreement stating employees are due 2.5% pay rise from the 6th April 2020 and I bet your sweet bippin a judge would award you the money.
It's a collective agreement between Royal Mail and the CWU, the CWU representing the workers. If you're not a worker when agreement is reached you're not represented in the agreement and you're not entitled to the pay.
fb1969
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Re: Back pay if you have left the business

Post by fb1969 »

Chupacabra74 wrote: ↑
21 Feb 2021, 06:46
Will it be paid automatically if you left after the 18th or do you have to claim it?
Only the company could answer that, but I would expect it would be sent straight to the same bank account as your pay was.
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: Back pay if you have left the business

Post by Woody Guthrie »

It's a collective agreement between Royal Mail and the CWU, the CWU representing the workers. If you're not a worker when agreement is reached you're not represented in the agreement and you're not entitled to the pay.
I think we know the excuse they're using.
We know it's a legally acceptable practice.

It's just disappointing that both the union and business think that it's morally acceptable especially given what members of staff have gone through over the past 12 months.

It's not even likely to be a large amount of money in the grand scheme of things but it's just another example especially in the union's case of being completely tone deaf to the position that workers and ex-employees find themselves in right now. To someone who maybe lost their job last year and is struggling to find another, a couple of hundred quid could be a life saver.
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