D2D Agreement

postman_jack · Post by **postman_jack** » 31 Aug 2019, 18:14

Sorry if this has been asked manay times, I've done a search but to no avail. Where can I find the most up to date policy/agreement on the delivery of D2D's? I want it in black and white where it states that all D2D's must be cleared from the frame by the end of the week plus the procedure when a bank holiday occurs.

Thanks

world class male · Post by **world class male** » 31 Aug 2019, 19:42

1x6th or 1x5th on a b/h week per day
agreements don't mean nothing if they come in mob handed, make sure you have a cwu rep nearby if they tell you otherwise, never ever agree to take double the next day, even if they say you'll have help the next day to complete, i once dumped a few 100 in their office after their lies, pass on what happened to them

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Aug 2019, 19:47

Why should you bother about agreements when RM is hell bent on breaking them as pause for thought.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 31 Aug 2019, 20:09

Doesn't matter how many bank holidays there are in a week. As long as the remaining D2Ds in the frame on the last working day of the week are delivered there will be no fallout. This is all you need to know.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 31 Aug 2019, 20:14

postman_jack wrote:Sorry if this has been asked manay times, I've done a search but to no avail. Where can I find the most up to date policy/agreement on the delivery of D2D's? I want it in black and white where it states that all D2D's must be cleared from the frame by the end of the week plus the procedure when a bank holiday occurs.

Thanks

All D2D's have to be cleared by the end of the week-On the D2D sheet/stickers it should have the dates.Never in all my 20 yrs have I ever known there to be a D2D contract that goes over the week in to 2 weeks.

A lot of D2D's are very time sensitive, special offers ect sales and companies would have campaigns run at certain times so they can staff themselves appropriately.

When D2D went into workload a few years a go the onus was on the office to have a D2D policy agreed by management and the office staff.EVERY office 'should' have a D2D policy which 'should' include bank holidays.

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9 fricken years later and we're still talking the same s**t...

Moving D2D into workload in a revision
• Door to Door will be planned on the basis of prepping and delivering 1/6th of the items each day of the week, Monday to Saturday.
• D2D should be the last items prepped to a frame after address mail unless there is available down time such as waiting for missorts or late arrivals.
• Whilst D2D workload will be planned on the basis of spreading it across six days a week delivery employees will have the ability to manage the delivery of the items themselves on the proviso that all items are delivered and the delivery specification is not compromised
• Whilst this may involve cold calling at some address points for which there are no other items it is the best approach overall as it is easy to understand, communicate and monitor
• D2D traffic volumes will now be entered into the Indoor Workload Tool (IWT) to calculate the workload associated with D2D.
• The standard procedure for collating and sorting D2D items varies as follows according to number of contracts:

1 or 2 Contracts
• Obtain D2D items for contract and place on bench
• Pick up handful and place one item in slot for each delivery point on that day's schedule
• Tidy away D2D
• Repeat for second contract
• Clear down D2D with ordinary mail from slots containing live mail

3 or more contracts
• Position one pile of D2D on bench for each contract
• Take item from top of each pile and place collated items in slot for each delivery point on that day's schedule
• Tidy away D2D
• Clear down D2D with ordinary mail from slots containing live mail

• A new updated call rate calculator has been issued which adjusts the call rate to take account of delivering 1/6th of D2D items each day.
• The frame should be clearly marked into 6ths (approx) so that both the regular OPG and any reserve duty can quickly identify the daily D2D requirement by road(s)
• Where delivery is performed in pairs (shared van delivery) the delivery loop or burst will constitute the most appropriate volume of delivery points to cover daily but the principle of 1/6th should be maintained.
• Dual prep roles should ensure that they prep D2D for both routes
• Clear down is as per normal process

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Aug 2019, 20:20

Celgar wrote:Doesn't matter how many bank holidays there are in a week. As long as the remaining D2Ds in the frame on the last working day of the week are delivered there will be no fallout. This is all you need to know.

So you have scope for more do you or maybe others are hard pushed with the piss poor agreement we now have and other who do don't pull their weight like managers everything has a matrix thats where my overtime went into the matrix and bonus of said managers pockets!

world class male · Post by **world class male** » 31 Aug 2019, 20:27

k979aaa wrote:Why should you bother about agreements when RM is hell bent on breaking them as pause for thought.

because if we break them individually they can dismiss you

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Aug 2019, 20:37

world class male wrote:
k979aaa wrote:Why should you bother about agreements when RM is hell bent on breaking them as pause for thought.
because if we break them individually they can dismiss you

Double Standards!

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 31 Aug 2019, 20:40

k979aaa wrote:
Celgar wrote:Doesn't matter how many bank holidays there are in a week. As long as the remaining D2Ds in the frame on the last working day of the week are delivered there will be no fallout. This is all you need to know.
So you have scope for more do you or maybe others are hard pushed with the piss poor agreement we now have and other who do don't pull their weight like managers everything has a matrix thats where my overtime went into the matrix and bonus of said managers pockets!

I'm going to get it in the neck for writing the following but it's just where I am in this job and that's it really.
Was last day of the extra summer absorption today not that I generally have time to fit it into my duty time. I also like to get my D2Ds all into the frame on Saturdays to deliver the majority of them on the following Monday. To be honest nowadays I don't have time within duty time to prep the D2Ds within duty time either. As a result I did two hours of work unpaid today - half an hour for the absorption and 90 minutes to prep five D2D items into the frame. The top bods don't realise how good a deal they get from the workforce currently. They are about to **** it all up the wall if they push us to strike.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 31 Aug 2019, 22:10

Celgar wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
Celgar wrote:Doesn't matter how many bank holidays there are in a week. As long as the remaining D2Ds in the frame on the last working day of the week are delivered there will be no fallout. This is all you need to know.
So you have scope for more do you or maybe others are hard pushed with the piss poor agreement we now have and other who do don't pull their weight like managers everything has a matrix thats where my overtime went into the matrix and bonus of said managers pockets!
I'm going to get it in the neck for writing the following but it's just where I am in this job and that's it really.
Was last day of the extra summer absorption today not that I generally have time to fit it into my duty time. I also like to get my D2Ds all into the frame on Saturdays to deliver the majority of them on the following Monday. To be honest nowadays I don't have time within duty time to prep the D2Ds within duty time either. As a result I did two hours of work unpaid today - half an hour for the absorption and 90 minutes to prep five D2D items into the frame. The top bods don't realise how good a deal they get from the workforce currently. They are about to **** it all up the wall if they push us to strike.

Hence why we need a 35 hour working week it is for the managers to make the job feasible and in the time allowed I understand your predicament entirely one should not have to do as you do it is piss poor management, They have the staff but chose too lapse if any office lapses it is a bonus for the DOM which is also pensionable so your paying his/her retirement whilst our pension has been decimated!

Sledge4211 · Post by **Sledge4211** » 31 Aug 2019, 22:34

Any remaining D2D’s in frame by saturday day either leave in frame for Monday or put in bin. I been with Royal Mail 8 years it ain’t first class post it’s junk s**t - don’t know why a lot of you worry about it smh

Post by **CPTNemoUK** » 31 Aug 2019, 23:13

D2D should be the last items prepped to a frame after address mail unless there is available down time such as waiting for missorts or late arrivals

I didn't know that. The lino goes round my office like a prison warden making sure you put them in first.

NewPostieUK · Post by **NewPostieUK** » 01 Sep 2019, 07:51

No mention of WHO actually preps them (the person who is responsible for prepping the frame), and what the duty holder is meant to do when they aren't prepped.

If there are any door to doors not prepped on a certain day, they seem to just get left.

plaguelift · Post by **plaguelift** » 01 Sep 2019, 12:32

All D2D's have to be cleared by the end of the week-On the D2D sheet/stickers it should have the dates.Never in all my 20 yrs have I ever known there to be a D2D contract that goes over the week in to 2 weeks.

I might be wrong but I started in 1994 and back then we used to get 2 weeks to deliver a D2D. I think it changed to 1 week that year as I remember our office got a local newspaper to deliver once a month and people were kicking off as to how we were going to cope with delivering it in one week. Little did we know 20 odd years later we would be delivering up to six a week!!

yellowbelly · Post by **yellowbelly** » 01 Sep 2019, 14:43

NewPostieUK wrote:No mention of WHO actually preps them (the person who is responsible for prepping the frame), and what the duty holder is meant to do when they aren't prepped.................

Maybe inform Lino/DOM, carry out their instructions, if it means going over on the delivery, get the O/T pre-authorised
or carry out the 'Cutting Off Procedure' ?????