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TheTrolleyMan · Post by **TheTrolleyMan** » 07 Oct 2018, 15:56

Now we have the SWW when is the CWU going to address delivery staff coming in and starting early everyday ? At our office we have posties coming in 90 mins early everyday !

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 07 Oct 2018, 16:03

NO WAY , are these cwu members as well ? if they are that's a disgrace and need to give there heads a bang

, when the cwu have just got 1 hour off the working regardless of what work there is to do and this increases your hourly rate as its not our job to lose the work its down to royal mail . , have they seen the posters that the cwu have just sent out ?

TheTrolleyMan · Post by **TheTrolleyMan** » 07 Oct 2018, 16:07

worktotime wrote:NO WAY , are these cwu members as well ? if they are that's a disgrace and need to give there heads a bang , when the cwu have just got 1 hour off the working regardless of what work there is to do and this increases your hourly rate as its not our job to lose the work its down to royal mail . , have they seen the posters that the cwu have just sent out ?

Yes they are CWU members

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 07 Oct 2018, 16:08

TheTrolleyMan wrote:
worktotime wrote:NO WAY , are these cwu members as well ? if they are that's a disgrace and need to give there heads a bang , when the cwu have just got 1 hour off the working regardless of what work there is to do and this increases your hourly rate as its not our job to lose the work its down to royal mail . , have they seen the posters that the cwu have just sent out ?
Yes they are CWU members

what a f***ing joke .

, and these are the type people who probably say the cwu don't do nowt for us .

Seymour Buts · Post by **Seymour Buts** » 07 Oct 2018, 16:12

TheTrolleyMan wrote:Now we have the SWW when is the CWU going to address delivery staff coming in and starting early everyday ? At our office we have posties coming in 90 mins early everyday !

What do you expect the union to do about people stupid enough to work for free? Have reps beating people up? There's nothing can be done about it; our DOM has even told people to stop coming in early because job and knock has gone they'll just be sent back out with more mail yet people are STILL doing it. On a Tuesday people are literally leaving as I walk in! People have just got to stop doing it.

TheTrolleyMan · Post by **TheTrolleyMan** » 07 Oct 2018, 16:13

Ive only recently gone over to delivery but is this normal practice at delivery offices ( Ie ...working for FREE ?)

Yamr1 · Post by **Yamr1** » 07 Oct 2018, 16:32

Our boss gets his Lino's to fling mail in and can't make people up to full time.
Still advances the mail every morning.
Oh and the runners in ours don't get sent out if mail has been left he pays out overtime f***ing unreal.
He doesn't listen to the union our health and safety guy.
His area manager must be scared of him lol lol lol

Yamr1 · Post by **Yamr1** » 07 Oct 2018, 16:34

Oh and he goes home early every Saturday but if you cut off you better be out to your time,
Pot kettle lol

Yamr1 · Post by **Yamr1** » 07 Oct 2018, 16:36

We've got few guys come in early and the manger sees them but must be laughing deep down he can get them to chuck more walks in.
Cause he sees there mails in before start time .
To be honest they still do it but moan

Seymour Buts · Post by **Seymour Buts** » 07 Oct 2018, 17:50

TheTrolleyMan wrote:Ive only recently gone over to delivery but is this normal practice at delivery offices ( Ie ...working for FREE ?)

Virtually everybody used to in our office. In fairness you could go early, I'd go in an hour early but be done between 11 and 12 Monday and Tuesdays then go home. I gave them an hour but gained at the minimum 1 back, 2 or 3 hours on quiet days. Not any more though, our unit was a high impact unit for hours being lost so job and knock was finished. No point coming in early now; I start on my time, some daft people still come in early though. Must be mad.

superports · Post by **superports** » 07 Oct 2018, 17:52

I'm curious as to when people that come in early claim overtime from if they go over. If they start for example 20 minutes early, do they claim overtime from 20 minutes before their finish time? If they do, is it fraud?

NewPostieUK · Post by **NewPostieUK** » 07 Oct 2018, 18:25

I wish the people who prep my frame would come in early. They might get it done.

They come in 20 mins later now and leave at least 30 mins to be prepped.

Seymour Buts · Post by **Seymour Buts** » 07 Oct 2018, 18:37

This shorter working week is ridiculous, I understand the Union's reasoning but the indoor work hasn't disapeered; as a result we're just doing the same work in less time! The last week has been carnage at our office.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 07 Oct 2018, 19:07

There are a couple of genuine issues wrapped up in this one, if they're genuinely working for free I.e starting early but not finishing early there are two possible reasons, either they have too much workload or a lack of confidence in their own performance perhaps instigated by management or even peers. In those circumstances rather than slagging them off it would be more constructive if colleagues could support the staff involved and find out whether there is anything they can do to help.

If it's the case that they're starting early and finishing early that's not working for free, that's unilaterally deciding your working hours. That's a management problem, I would advise members to steer clear in that case because it's a fine line between banter and bullying.

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 07 Oct 2018, 19:29

Woody Guthrie wrote:There are a couple of genuine issues wrapped up in this one, if they're genuinely working for free I.e starting early but not finishing early there are two possible reasons, either they have too much workload or a lack of confidence in their own performance perhaps instigated by management or even peers. In those circumstances rather than slagging them off it would be more constructive if colleagues could support the staff involved and find out whether there is anything they can do to help.

If it's the case that they're starting early and finishing early that's not working for free, that's unilaterally deciding your working hours. That's a management problem, I would advise members to steer clear in that case because it's a fine line between banter and bullying.