prepping and delivery of D2D

[Borderpost64]

If someone had prepped all the D2D 's into there frame does the spare man have to deliver a 6th of them when he is covering his duty or is it only a guideline.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

If someone had prepped all the D2D 's into the frame does the spare man have to deliver a 6th of them when he is covering his duty or is it only a guideline.

Technically it's both. Its a guideline in that the duty holder is allowed to plan the delivery of D2Ds to avoid cold calling, but all the D2Ds must be delivered. However, the agreement also says 16.6% must be delivered daily.

To be fair, the prep is the PITA part, if you didn't take at least 16.6%, or where you are going, I'd be kicking off.

Jusr to add some units have local agreements where specific addresses get D2Ds on specific days if you have that then that overrides everything.

[Celgar]

"Someone" should not have put all the D2D in the frame the day before if that same "someone" is not personally there to deliver them. In short that "someone" is taking the piss out of you and you should raise the issue with your DOM.
The official RM rule as I understand it is that whoever is on the walk that day throws up one sixth of the households, usually one vertical section, and delivers all of those D2D leaflets even if there are not any letters etc for those delivery points.

In our office we are largely left to our own devices so we all use our own methods to do them. The majority look to get them in the frame as soon as possible and look to deliver the majority by Wednesday when it gets busier. Personally I am to prep them all into the frame on Saturday after getting back from delivery then I deliver the majority of them on Monday. I hate the things and want them gone asap. This does mean the cover guy for my day off, which I rarely get nowadays given the shortages of staff, hardly ever has to deal with D2D on my delivery but still effectively gets paid for doing them. I never agreed with this so called 'fairness' policy of paying everyone for doing D2Ds even if they never have anything to do with them.

[jd9442]

"Someone" should not have put all the D2D in the frame the day before if that same "someone" is not personally there to deliver them. In short that "someone" is taking the piss out of you and you should raise the issue with your DOM.
The official RM rule as I understand it is that whoever is on the walk that day throws up one sixth of the households, usually one vertical section, and delivers all of those D2D leaflets even if there are not any letters etc for those delivery points.

In our office we are largely left to our own devices so we all use our own methods to do them. The majority look to get them in the frame as soon as possible and look to deliver the majority by Wednesday when it gets busier. Personally I am to prep them all into the frame on Saturday after getting back from delivery then I deliver the majority of them on Monday. I hate the things and want them gone asap. This does mean the cover guy for my day off, which I rarely get nowadays given the shortages of staff, hardly ever has to deal with D2D on my delivery but still effectively gets paid for doing them. I never agreed with this so called 'fairness' policy of paying everyone for doing D2Ds even if they never have anything to do with them.

You rarely get a day off because of the shortage of staff? Lol. Sue them mate.
I’m sure the cover guy still does door to doors throughout the week too

[weary_posty]

Nobody gets paid specifically to deliver D2D. It is considered live mail with a delivery span of 7 days.

I always prep all (as much as I can daily on busier periods) of my D2D for the start of the week. As said above, the prep is the pain in the ass and by taking where you're going doesn't affect your call rate.

[Strong bull]

"Someone" should not have put all the D2D in the frame the day before if that same "someone" is not personally there to deliver them. In short that "someone" is taking the piss out of you and you should raise the issue with your DOM.
The official RM rule as I understand it is that whoever is on the walk that day throws up one sixth of the households, usually one vertical section, and delivers all of those D2D leaflets even if there are not any letters etc for those delivery points.

In our office we are largely left to our own devices so we all use our own methods to do them. The majority look to get them in the frame as soon as possible and look to deliver the majority by Wednesday when it gets busier. Personally I am to prep them all into the frame on Saturday after getting back from delivery then I deliver the majority of them on Monday. I hate the things and want them gone asap. This does mean the cover guy for my day off, which I rarely get nowadays given the shortages of staff, hardly ever has to deal with D2D on my delivery but still effectively gets paid for doing them. I never agreed with this so called 'fairness' policy of paying everyone for doing D2Ds even if they never have anything to do with them.

I wonder if your short of staff because you prep d2d for the week on sat ( presume in your own time ) and you work your days off

[Creditshampoo]

"Someone" should not have put all the D2D in the frame the day before if that same "someone" is not personally there to deliver them. In short that "someone" is taking the piss out of you and you should raise the issue with your DOM.
The official RM rule as I understand it is that whoever is on the walk that day throws up one sixth of the households, usually one vertical section, and delivers all of those D2D leaflets even if there are not any letters etc for those delivery points.

In our office we are largely left to our own devices so we all use our own methods to do them. The majority look to get them in the frame as soon as possible and look to deliver the majority by Wednesday when it gets busier. Personally I am to prep them all into the frame on Saturday after getting back from delivery then I deliver the majority of them on Monday. I hate the things and want them gone asap. This does mean the cover guy for my day off, which I rarely get nowadays given the shortages of staff, hardly ever has to deal with D2D on my delivery but still effectively gets paid for doing them. I never agreed with this so called 'fairness' policy of paying everyone for doing D2Ds even if they never have anything to do with them.

I wonder if your short of staff because you prep d2d for the week on sat ( presume in your own time ) and you work your days off

Bingo

[eastie]

D2D's in your own time
YOU HAVING A LAUGH ????

[CPTNemoUK]

I would love to know who arranges the D2D. Because I have a garage door one next week, But my walk is a council estate with not a single garage on it
Edit: I have also the same d2d that I had last week as well

[Dorset Plodder]

If someone had prepped all the D2D 's into there frame does the spare man have to deliver a 6th of them when he is covering his duty or is it only a guideline.

Several valid points made. If they're in the frame I'd basically take them where I was going. I agree it's a bit of a shites trick to throw them all off if you know the Reserve's on there the next day, do they think you're going to take them all to where you're going? Perhaps talk to the Duty Holder about it?

We've recently had a colleague who decided to throw their Teddy in the Corner,because of changes to start times. They said in future they'd be throwing their Households off every morning "in Royal Mail's Time". Which IMO is great! They've told the Reserve that they'd be leaving a sixth for them to throw off.... "and I want them ALL delivered that day"! The Reserve asked me what I thought about it. I said "I'd Throw off your sixth & Deliver them all.... and leave the Households they'd already prepped in the frame.... I'm sure they'll soon want to discuss how you can both work together"!

[Celgar]

"Someone" should not have put all the D2D in the frame the day before if that same "someone" is not personally there to deliver them. In short that "someone" is taking the piss out of you and you should raise the issue with your DOM.
The official RM rule as I understand it is that whoever is on the walk that day throws up one sixth of the households, usually one vertical section, and delivers all of those D2D leaflets even if there are not any letters etc for those delivery points.

In our office we are largely left to our own devices so we all use our own methods to do them. The majority look to get them in the frame as soon as possible and look to deliver the majority by Wednesday when it gets busier. Personally I am to prep them all into the frame on Saturday after getting back from delivery then I deliver the majority of them on Monday. I hate the things and want them gone asap. This does mean the cover guy for my day off, which I rarely get nowadays given the shortages of staff, hardly ever has to deal with D2D on my delivery but still effectively gets paid for doing them. I never agreed with this so called 'fairness' policy of paying everyone for doing D2Ds even if they never have anything to do with them.

You rarely get a day off because of the shortage of staff? Lol. Sue them mate.
I’m sure the cover guy still does door to doors throughout the week too

I have been working my days off on overtime to help out. It suits me to do so for several reasons. A lot of DOs are short-staffed due to incompetence in the RM HR department, an unwillingness or inability of posties to transfer due to more lack of staff, and an apparent reluctance of people in the UK to leave the benefit system and get a job.
Regarding the cover guy following guidelines they would throw up and deliver a third each day but they don't necessarily have to do so.

[yellowbelly]

"Someone" should not have put all the D2D in the frame the day before if that same "someone" is not personally there to deliver them. In short that "someone" is taking the piss out of you and you should raise the issue with your DOM............................

I am to prep them all into the frame on Saturday after getting back from delivery then I deliver the majority of them on Monday. I hate the things and want them gone asap. This does mean the cover guy for my day off, which I rarely get nowadays given the shortages of staff, hardly ever has to deal with D2D on my delivery

So if you go sick for a Monday what then? You've effectively become that 'someone' you refer to. Also if you've thrown them in on a Saturday isn't what
you've effectively done is misuse the daily D2D prep time for normal mail prep thereby making it appear that there is more time for lapsing
or other management demands or not making up hours for P/T'ers or employing more staff to rectify the staff shortages you also refer to?

[Strong bull]

"Someone" should not have put all the D2D in the frame the day before if that same "someone" is not personally there to deliver them. In short that "someone" is taking the piss out of you and you should raise the issue with your DOM............................

I am to prep them all into the frame on Saturday after getting back from delivery then I deliver the majority of them on Monday. I hate the things and want them gone asap. This does mean the cover guy for my day off, which I rarely get nowadays given the shortages of staff, hardly ever has to deal with D2D on my delivery

So if you go sick for a Monday what then? You've effectively become that 'someone' you refer to. Also if you've thrown them in on a Saturday isn't what
you've effectively done is misuse the daily D2D prep time for normal mail prep thereby making it appear that there is more time for lapsing
or other management demands or not making up hours for P/T'ers or employing more staff to rectify the staff shortages you also refer to?

And don't forget when your on holiday or ill the poor person covering your round will get the well such and such can do the duty so why can't you?

[Strong bull]

"Someone" should not have put all the D2D in the frame the day before if that same "someone" is not personally there to deliver them. In short that "someone" is taking the piss out of you and you should raise the issue with your DOM............................

I am to prep them all into the frame on Saturday after getting back from delivery then I deliver the majority of them on Monday. I hate the things and want them gone asap. This does mean the cover guy for my day off, which I rarely get nowadays given the shortages of staff, hardly ever has to deal with D2D on my delivery

So if you go sick for a Monday what then? You've effectively become that 'someone' you refer to. Also if you've thrown them in on a Saturday isn't what
you've effectively done is misuse the daily D2D prep time for normal mail prep thereby making it appear that there is more time for lapsing
or other management demands or not making up hours for P/T'ers or employing more staff to rectify the staff shortages you also refer to?

And don't forget when your on holiday or ill the poor person covering your round will get the well such and such can do the duty so why can't you?

Also every time you "help out" by working your day off all is well in ivory towers so no p/t will be made up and no new staff will be taken on.Remember this when you want a sat off in 6 months time but you can't as your depot is understaffed.

[WOBBLY]

I prep my 6th of door to doors every morning in RM time as they should be. The day off cover does his/her 6th on my day off. No-one is doing any work for free nor is anyone doing extra work they shouldn't be doing. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE :)