ballot opens!!

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 15 Aug 2017, 18:06

just got the txt off rep from London.....opens 14th sept. closes 3rd October. results announced same day....scrap on!!

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 15 Aug 2017, 18:29

txt reads:-four pillars and cwu pay claim.-industrial action timetable. further to updates provided in LTBs 410/17 and 447/17 and following the national briefing held in London Monday 14th august, the postal executive met today to discuss a ballot for industrial action to support the cwu four pillars campaign. working in close consultation with the SDGS dept, the postal executive endorsed the following ballot timetable for all appropriate cwu grades in the RM group. letter out for membership check -16th aug. 2017...information returned by 30th aug. issue notification 6th sept. ballot opens 14th sept...ballot closes 3rd October...results announced 3rd October.

Post by **bigal383** » 15 Aug 2017, 18:47

Strike hard lads spread the word

Post by **POSTMAN** » 15 Aug 2017, 18:56

Working in close consultation with
the SDGS Department, the Postal
Executive endorsed the following
ballot timetable for all appropriate
CWU grades in the Royal Mail
Group:

Letter out for Membership Check
16th August 2017
Information Returned By
30th August 2017
Issue Notification
6th September 2017
Ballot Opens
14th September 2017
Ballot Closes
3rd October 2017
Result Announced
3rd October 2017

Post by **Lounge Lizard** » 15 Aug 2017, 21:36

Isn't "Letter out for Membership Check 16th August 2017, Information Returned By 30th August 2017" something new this time ?

And will all those members who don't get round to returning the membership check information be ineligible to vote thus significantly reducing not only the turnout but also the effectiveness of the 'yes' vote ?

Shedend · Post by **Shedend** » 16 Aug 2017, 07:34

I believe the membership check letter goes to branches to check local membership lists for accuracy.

Post by **baldrick** » 16 Aug 2017, 07:39

Shedend wrote:I believe the membership check letter goes to branches to check local membership lists for accuracy.

Yes, it will be for the CWU Branches, working with local reps, to ensure that membership details, including addresses are up to date.
If they aren't it leaves the ballot result open to legal action by the employer, to possibly prevent any IA.

Post by **ballsup** » 16 Aug 2017, 08:07

It's going to be difficult to get a legal ballot.

Post by **Lounge Lizard** » 16 Aug 2017, 14:40

Shedend, Baldrick,
Thanks for that clarification.
I had just feared that the CWU faced another obstacle.

I suggest that a low turnout with 29% of the workforce voting for industrial action would be satisfactory, 29% being the percentage of the electorate that voted Conservative at the last general election, but I expect it will be a clear majority maybe doubling that 29%.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 16 Aug 2017, 17:48

POSTMAN wrote:Working in close consultation with
the SDGS Department, the Postal
Executive endorsed the following
ballot timetable for all appropriate
CWU grades in the Royal Mail
Group:

Letter out for Membership Check
16th August 2017
Information Returned By
30th August 2017
Issue Notification
6th September 2017
Ballot Opens
14th September 2017
Ballot Closes
3rd October 2017
Result Announced
3rd October 2017

All this crap should have been done a month ago we should have a strike date of end of September not end of October!

citypostie · Post by **citypostie** » 16 Aug 2017, 19:39

k979aaa wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:Working in close consultation with
the SDGS Department, the Postal
Executive endorsed the following
ballot timetable for all appropriate
CWU grades in the Royal Mail
Group:

Letter out for Membership Check
16th August 2017
Information Returned By
30th August 2017
Issue Notification
6th September 2017
Ballot Opens
14th September 2017
Ballot Closes
3rd October 2017
Result Announced
3rd October 2017
All this crap should have been done a month ago we should have a strike date of end of September not end of October!

The closer the strikes are to Christmas the better, puts a lot more pressure on moya and the rest

Post by **Lounge Lizard** » 16 Aug 2017, 22:44

citypostie wrote:
k979aaa wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:Working in close consultation with
the SDGS Department, the Postal
Executive endorsed the following
ballot timetable for all appropriate
CWU grades in the Royal Mail
Group:

Letter out for Membership Check
16th August 2017
Information Returned By
30th August 2017
Issue Notification
6th September 2017
Ballot Opens
14th September 2017
Ballot Closes
3rd October 2017
Result Announced
3rd October 2017
All this crap should have been done a month ago we should have a strike date of end of September not end of October!
The closer the strikes are to Christmas the better, puts a lot more pressure on moya and the rest

But then RM will use delaying tactics for three months and strikes starting in the new year will have little effect.

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 17 Aug 2017, 17:07

well i hope the union sees through that caper this time and goes ahead. saying that, the last time we didn't just have them on the ropes, we had them on the canvass and we STILL let them up. hope they learned from that.

LouBarlow · Post by **LouBarlow** » 17 Aug 2017, 17:12

daveyeff wrote:well i hope the union sees through that caper this time and goes ahead. saying that, the last time we didn't just have them on the ropes, we had them on the canvass and we STILL let them up. hope they learned from that.

The CWU is already on life-support. If they balls this up they are pretty much done and they know it.

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 17 Aug 2017, 17:22

daveyeff wrote:well i hope the union sees through that caper this time and goes ahead. saying that, the last time we didn't just have them on the ropes, we had them on the canvass and we STILL let them up. hope they learned from that.

When was that then?