One Wave

jetblack · Post by **jetblack** » 14 Jun 2016, 19:33

Wondering what info any of you have about the One Wave plan/proposals. I know nothing about it but it sounds like it could be a very big deal from what I've read on here. I know its all obviously yet to be finalised - just wondering what anyone has heard on the grapevine.

When is this plan supposed to come into force ? What are its objectives ? Does it coincide with the end of the guarentee for the universal service ? Does it coincide with the end (possibly) of the defined benefit pension scheme ?

I'm out in the sticks and don't get much info one way or the other till its a done deal/upon us - but what I wanted to ask was what are the plans for the mail being already pre-sorted by the time it reaches me ? How is this to be done - via QR code/2d code ? Is this how they are planning the cuts to delivery (ie.sorting time) ?

Just wondering what you have all heard - it was recently in another thread that the One Wave plan might look to cut walks by up to one third. How do they propose to do this ?

Post by **SpacePhoenix** » 14 Jun 2016, 19:50

The only think that we can be fairly certain about is that DOs will get their mech mail later

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 15 Jun 2016, 10:26

it means a money saving plan that is set to fail , and it will mean JOB LOSSES in all parts of the company.

Spedley · Post by **Spedley** » 15 Jun 2016, 10:43

All I've been able to gather is that it is based on the 'feeding' system they use in some countries with lower mail volumes.
You get one wave with all that can be mechanically sorted put into order in trays. You then sort everything else as you would normally. Whilst out on delivery you work from two bundles - one you sorted and one the machine sorted - and deliver both concurrently.
It works great with low volume or bulk mail but fails miserably in the UK.

Obviously I could be totally wrong with the very limited info we get trickling down from above but this seems the most likely option. There is no way the mail will be 100% sorted and prepping the machine sorted mail into a frame is a big waste of time so this option is the only one that makes sense.

It would make more sense if their big push for 2D barcodes meant that 90% of mail was sortable, then feeding 10% in (mostly packets and birthday cards etc) whilst on delivery would make more sense but I can't see that happening soon.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 15 Jun 2016, 12:54

fair bit of speculation and information in these threads:

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 60&t=72910" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; 16 pages

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 60&t=74191" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; One Plan ? What's it's all about help

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... ve#p733058" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; LTB 321/16 Renfrew Delivery Office - Extension of Delivery Span

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... ve#p729196" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; LTB 216/16 - PROPOSED CLOSURES OF DELIVERY OFFICES (1)

Pidleypoo · Post by **Pidleypoo** » 15 Jun 2016, 16:43

Spedley wrote:All I've been able to gather is that it is based on the 'feeding' system they use in some countries with lower mail volumes.
You get one wave with all that can be mechanically sorted put into order in trays. You then sort everything else as you would normally. Whilst out on delivery you work from two bundles - one you sorted and one the machine sorted - and deliver both concurrently.
It works great with low volume or bulk mail but fails miserably in the UK.

Obviously I could be totally wrong with the very limited info we get trickling down from above but this seems the most likely option. There is no way the mail will be 100% sorted and prepping the machine sorted mail into a frame is a big waste of time so this option is the only one that makes sense.

It would make more sense if their big push for 2D barcodes meant that 90% of mail was sortable, then feeding 10% in (mostly packets and birthday cards etc) whilst on delivery would make more sense but I can't see that happening soon.

I might be wrong but i thought they'd done this in Canada and it was ruled a health and safety breach (the two bundle thing anyway)

themailman · Post by **themailman** » 15 Jun 2016, 17:40

The second wave is the ONLY thing that keeps many of our non break taking/early starting staff hanging about in the mornings...

Bahia Feliz · Post by **Bahia Feliz** » 15 Jun 2016, 19:37

Sting sang of the SEVENTH wave years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXZistami3c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mr Rush · Post by **Mr Rush** » 19 Jun 2016, 19:25

Pidleypoo wrote:I might be wrong but i thought they'd done this in Canada and it was ruled a health and safety breach (the two bundle thing anyway)

I recall a Canada Post employee writing here many years ago warning us about Moya. The two bundle method came in under her.

Gold Fox · Post by **Gold Fox** » 19 Jun 2016, 19:57

Our DOM says .... just forget about ONE WAVE, its not going to happen !!