working over

[lucky escape]

Hi I'm doing a van shared duty at the moment,it's tight on time and some days goes over. I don't want to book i've got plenty to do and would rather finish on time. I've told the manager this but he keeps saying you shouldn't be going over on that job but if you do book. I've tried explaining about not wanting to and if people do book they don't always get it paid. Where do I stand on this,I'm feeling guilty now about not working over and today I was made to feel like I was a trouble maker.

[Jpro747]

If you feel you cannot complete, either cut off or agree with your manager to get paid to do the overtime. Don't let them bully you into working for free, and never feel guilty - it's not your problem. You can't be forced to work overtime. However, you MUST use the correct procedure for cutting off, which can be found on here somewhere (use the search).

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[Judgee]

RM want everyone to work over that is their plan. If walks cannot be completed in time and everyone has to work over to complete it means they are not paying a penny more than people work.

Of course their plan falls flat when people refuse to work over and that is why management bully and harass people into working late.

I would like the union to make a stand on this. Perhaps instead of promoting a days "do your job properly " campaign they could make it a year long thing. Then and only then would management give up on these ridiculous sized walks and unnecessary bullying!

If you don't want to work over you do not have to and you do not have to make up excuses. You do need to tell them as soon as you realise you will not complete.

Follow the rules and they cannot touch you. You are only a victim if you let them treat you like one!

[Shaders]

Dont feel guilty about only working your contracted hours, we brought two loops back today, told the DIM before we went out what would happen but didnt want to listen.

[eastie]

My DOM said to me today that when he was a postie people never dreamed of cutting off
What a pratt

[Judgee]

My DOM said to me today that when he was a postie people never dreamed of cutting off
What a pratt

That was probably before RM decide to try and kill off it's employees with unfair workloads?!

I didn't cut off for the first eight years of working for RM it was never necessary.

Cut of lots since the last revision a few years back and now they are in the process of another where they want to take out even more walks!

[spiderj]

Hi I'm doing a van shared duty at the moment,it's tight on time and some days goes over. I don't want to book i've got plenty to do and would rather finish on time. I've told the manager this but he keeps saying you shouldn't be going over on that job but if you do book. I've tried explaining about not wanting to and if people do book they don't always get it paid. Where do I stand on this,I'm feeling guilty now about not working over and today I was made to feel like I was a trouble maker.

Making you feel bad displays poor management skills.
In a nutshell you only have to work your hours but be careful about how you approach it.

You could always ask to help by checking the figures he has for everyone else's finish time versus workload? And watch the face crumple

[tommyrep]

Yet again another thread on a long standing problem in delivery !!!! Why, Oh why, does our union at national level not accept the problem exists throughout the country ( not an isolated probem ) and sit down with Moya et al and put a stop to this unfair daily intimidation that goes on in DO's by often by over stressed managers - must be said!! Come on Bob Gibson, earn your keep and take up this challenge !!! I cannot understand why you continue to do NOTHING on a subject you should easily solve and convincingly win,

[Krafty]

Yet again another thread on a long standing problem in delivery !!!! Why, Oh why, does our union at national level not accept the problem exists throughout the country ( not an isolated probem ) and sit down with Moya et al and put a stop to this unfair daily intimidation that goes on in DO's by often by over stressed managers - must be said!! Come on Bob Gibson, earn your keep and take up this challenge !!! I cannot understand why you continue to do NOTHING on a subject you should easily solve and convincingly win,

I totally agree with the above.

I'm on leave with stress at the moment because of two years of constant harassment over my delivery, which is impossible to finish on time nearly every day of the week.
Union rep was no help what so ever!