ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

Management ignoring grievances

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
thevardinator
Posts: 165
Joined: 12 Apr 2010, 16:21
Gender: Male

Management ignoring grievances

Post by thevardinator »

In our office we've got around 10 grievances that are building up......some are now 4 months old, dragging on with no end in sight. These aren't just petty things either, these are legitimate managerial (obviously) bullying/harassment/attitude issues, a daily practice in our office from personal experience.

The local rep and regional rep have tried and tried relentlessly to get the issue(s) sorted but keep getting frankly given the middle finger week in week out, being promised that they will be sorted out, only to have them shoved back to the bottom of the pile and told they have no time to sort them.

Why is this allowed to happen?
STAND TOGETHER IN THE FIGHT.
Chelseablue
Posts: 2222
Joined: 19 Aug 2013, 14:33
Gender: Female

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by Chelseablue »

Getting worse now all over uk so I hear ,,what's union saying !.!.?
hans solo
Posts: 3280
Joined: 06 Feb 2011, 18:08
Gender: Male

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by hans solo »

someones got to take it out office and report bullying to police and charge them
it is illegal and an offence
Jpro747
Posts: 1342
Joined: 23 Dec 2012, 10:22
Gender: Male

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by Jpro747 »

Time to walk out if you ask me
postie222
Posts: 177
Joined: 25 Mar 2010, 09:39
Gender: Male

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by postie222 »

sit in canteen then get the mediators in
Darren Bent
Posts: 2150
Joined: 05 Oct 2007, 15:38
Gender: Male
Location: Pride Park, Derby, DE24 8XL

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by Darren Bent »

send email to Moya as she might demand answer and action.
Budfrog
Posts: 893
Joined: 11 Sep 2007, 02:19

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by Budfrog »

There are laid down time scales and I believe it is mandatory for an investigation to take place within 3 months of an official complaint.

There is no doubt a new version of this doc but I don't suppose it will be too far away:

http://www.cwu.org/assets/_files/docume ... eement.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
TrueBlueTerrier
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 72727
Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
Gender: Male
Location: On my couch

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

thevardinator wrote:
Why is this allowed to happen?
Not wanting to aggravate you but the question could be turned back to you and your colleagues. Why are you allowing to happen.

If 10 are outstanding and none are being dealt with then you have to bring it to peoples attention. There are many ways of doing this: (list is not exhaustive but starts at what I think is least effective choice)

1. Put in a grievance about how the grievance is being handled.
2. Have a gate meeting and see if you can get some consensuses about your next step.
3. Contact Moya.
4. Ask for a Rule 13 ballot.
5. Contact the local press anonymously.
6. Go wildcat and hit the gate or canteen.
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
thevardinator
Posts: 165
Joined: 12 Apr 2010, 16:21
Gender: Male

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by thevardinator »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
thevardinator wrote:
Why is this allowed to happen?
Not wanting to aggravate you but the question could be turned back to you and your colleagues. Why are you allowing to happen.

If 10 are outstanding and none are being dealt with then you have to bring it to peoples attention. There are many ways of doing this: (list is not exhaustive but starts at what I think is least effective choice)

1. Put in a grievance about how the grievance is being handled.
2. Have a gate meeting and see if you can get some consensuses about your next step.
3. Contact Moya.
4. Ask for a Rule 13 ballot.
5. Contact the local press anonymously.
6. Go wildcat and hit the gate or canteen.
I believe a few of those are being looked into as we speak and we wont stop until the issue is sorted.
STAND TOGETHER IN THE FIGHT.
UnhappyGremlin
Posts: 2685
Joined: 18 May 2012, 20:49
Gender: Male
Location: Hiding

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by UnhappyGremlin »

A grievance should be dealt with within 28 days.
If not, then you (or others that have filed), should file a stage 2 complaint with the manager of the person failing to deal with the original grievance.
You should re-state your original complaint, add the failure of the manager to deal with it, and include any paperwork (including a copy of the original grievance/letter of receipt of it being filed) as evidence.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
roger
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 148
Joined: 17 Feb 2007, 18:51

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by roger »

UnhappyGremlin wrote:A grievance should be dealt with within 28 days.
If not, then you (or others that have filed), should file a stage 2 complaint with the manager of the person failing to deal with the original grievance.
You should re-state your original complaint, add the failure of the manager to deal with it, and include any paperwork (including a copy of the original grievance/letter of receipt of it being filed) as evidence.
Or you could email Moya's office and threaten to go to your local mp which in our case got the grievances heard within a week and we won.
UnhappyGremlin
Posts: 2685
Joined: 18 May 2012, 20:49
Gender: Male
Location: Hiding

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by UnhappyGremlin »

roger wrote:
UnhappyGremlin wrote:A grievance should be dealt with within 28 days.
If not, then you (or others that have filed), should file a stage 2 complaint with the manager of the person failing to deal with the original grievance.
You should re-state your original complaint, add the failure of the manager to deal with it, and include any paperwork (including a copy of the original grievance/letter of receipt of it being filed) as evidence.
Or you could email Moya's office and threaten to go to your local mp which in our case got the grievances heard within a week and we won.
There are many ways of getting them to take action.
All that matters is that they are MADE to actually do their jobs and resolve grievances/investigate issues properly and promptly.

Though, they should deal with issues and grievances WITHOUT the need for any staff member to take any action other than speaking to their manager/filing their complaint.
As usual, RM and its managers just try and ignore complaints and hope we get fed up of waiting and give in.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
tigercat
Posts: 76
Joined: 23 Sep 2010, 15:01
Gender: Male

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by tigercat »

I put in a grievance for B and H against my lino and DOM back in early October. Had full backing from the union. RM ignored this and I left RM at the end of January this year without this being resolved.
UnhappyGremlin
Posts: 2685
Joined: 18 May 2012, 20:49
Gender: Male
Location: Hiding

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by UnhappyGremlin »

tigercat wrote:I put in a grievance for B and H against my lino and DOM back in early October. Had full backing from the union. RM ignored this and I left RM at the end of January this year without this being resolved.
You don't file a grievance for B&H.
It's a formal complaint to HR, fill in a H1 form.
Ask for it to be dealt with by a manager from a different postcode area.
It should take around 21 days.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
aiden01
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 7001
Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
Gender: Male

Re: Management ignoring grievances

Post by aiden01 »

tigercat wrote:I put in a grievance for B and H against my lino and DOM back in early October. Had full backing from the union. RM ignored this and I left RM at the end of January this year without this being resolved.
left rm or sacked :hmmmm just asking btw.