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SJH101
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seniority

Post by SJH101 »

I had recently been made up to full time and have since been moved back to part time after asking to come back down to my old hours. I was one of the most senior part timers in my office.

What I want to know is do you lose your original part seniority if you go full time and then back to your old part time hours? Surely it would be the same. The same people are still there as was when I was originally part time. ( high up seniority)

I'm hoping its not a case of because I had gone full time, and then dropped back down to the part time hours I was doing before, the part timers who were originally below me in seniority are now above me because I went full time and dropped back down.
fishtank
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Re: seniority

Post by fishtank »

Seniority is simply length of service.
That doesn't change no matter what your contracted hours are.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
sharky0308
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Re: seniority

Post by sharky0308 »

Don't even get me started on the whole subject of seniority!
19times
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Re: seniority

Post by 19times »

DOM at ours wants to just put whoever on whatever duty at his choosing.

We have a resign in the pipeline after the office completing a full revision but he is kicking off over the seniority part which has always resulted in people picking there own dutys.

I am p/t and am second on the list however a f/t came down to p/t knopcking me into third.
chrisj
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Re: seniority

Post by chrisj »

Unless there are 2 lists (Pt and Ft), you cannot really be knocked off your position on the seniority list...
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: seniority

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

19times wrote:DOM at ours wants to just put whoever on whatever duty at his choosing.

We have a resign in the pipeline after the office completing a full revision but he is kicking off over the seniority part which has always resulted in people picking there own dutys.

I am p/t and am second on the list however a f/t came down to p/t knopcking me into third.
there is only one seniority list, regardless of hours, should not be a pt list and ft list.
19times
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Re: seniority

Post by 19times »

zx135 wrote:
19times wrote:DOM at ours wants to just put whoever on whatever duty at his choosing.

We have a resign in the pipeline after the office completing a full revision but he is kicking off over the seniority part which has always resulted in people picking there own dutys.

I am p/t and am second on the list however a f/t came down to p/t knopcking me into third.
there is only one seniority list, regardless of hours, should not be a pt list and ft list.
Two lists going up so we've been told.

Rumours today the DOM as left the business, no idea why or indeed true.
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: seniority

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

19times wrote:
zx135 wrote:
19times wrote:DOM at ours wants to just put whoever on whatever duty at his choosing.

We have a resign in the pipeline after the office completing a full revision but he is kicking off over the seniority part which has always resulted in people picking there own dutys.

I am p/t and am second on the list however a f/t came down to p/t knopcking me into third.
there is only one seniority list, regardless of hours, should not be a pt list and ft list.
Two lists going up so we've been told.

Rumours today the DOM as left the business, no idea why or indeed true.
the get your rep to put a stop to it, there should only be one list, if he is unsure get him to speak to branch secretary
chrisj
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Re: seniority

Post by chrisj »

There is nothing sinister about having 2 lists - it just makes the resign quicker. The 2 lists refer to the duty streams not seniority.

In most offices, there are FT/PT combinations for PL/Shared van jobs.

Since a part-timer cannot pick a FT job and vice versa, the picks can run side by side. It will not make any difference to the seniority per se. So a FT coming down to PT will not necessarily displace the most senior part-timer unless he has seniority in the first place.
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: seniority

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

chrisj wrote:There is nothing sinister about having 2 lists - it just makes the resign quicker. The 2 lists refer to the duty streams not seniority.

In most offices, there are FT/PT combinations for PL/Shared van jobs.

Since a part-timer cannot pick a FT job and vice versa, the picks can run side by side. It will not make any difference to the seniority per se. So a FT coming down to PT will not necessarily displace the most senior part-timer unless he has seniority in the first place.
Except the outdoor element of the duties should all be the same and availible for part timers to choose if they wish
chrisj
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Re: seniority

Post by chrisj »

zx,

I do not understand your reply... The duties are FT/PT combo - that is not my doing. But I like it that way because it seems to work in my experience and opinion.

I understand that some offices do not have FT/PT combinations but I cannot tell you whether this is a local issue or something that was designed as part of the Agreement and P&L/Shared vans.

But we had the Area came in to explain things before our revision and subsequent resign...