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Reserves saturday entitlement?
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crammypostie1
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Reserves saturday entitlement?
Curious.... if your a reserve... whats your entitlement towards recieving saturdays off.... can royal mail make you go 12 months without a saturday off?
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Darren Bent
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
same as everyone if you are not getting your fair shares see your union rep and file grievous report (if nothing then area reps) Don't let the management tell you anything different.
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UnhappyGremlin
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
No. But in your case hopefully they'll make an exception.crammypostie1 wrote:Curious.... if your a reserve... whats your entitlement towards recieving saturdays off.... can royal mail make you go 12 months without a saturday off?
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POSTMAN
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Sidley
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
It's s**t man, they quote "operational needs" at you when you eventually rumble the bastards switching your rare Saturday to a Tuesday as its easier for them.
Even post revision I'll be faced with the same bollocks, rep is trying to sort something out for us reserves to make it "fairer".
Fairer for management probably.
Even post revision I'll be faced with the same bollocks, rep is trying to sort something out for us reserves to make it "fairer".
Fairer for management probably.
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korky
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
i guess its varied from orifice to orifice,
when i was a reserve i put in a few requests for it to be looked in to, nothing happened even when the onion rep was brought in,
just got told if i had to have a saturday off to book a holiday and if it got to 4/5 weeks then just make a comment about it coming close, but not much chance of a sat/mon off, and our managers are quite approachable and do try if you push them.
not good to plan a long weekend away while ever a reserve though, treat like crap
when i was a reserve i put in a few requests for it to be looked in to, nothing happened even when the onion rep was brought in,
just got told if i had to have a saturday off to book a holiday and if it got to 4/5 weeks then just make a comment about it coming close, but not much chance of a sat/mon off, and our managers are quite approachable and do try if you push them.
not good to plan a long weekend away while ever a reserve though, treat like crap
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trythat
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
Every time this crops up, I don't understand why reserves are treated any different to fixed duty OPG, we are mainly a 1 week off in 6, but still have a few rolling days, reserves and fixed are treated the same - 1 long weekned off every 6 weeks. I don't see why all Area reps don't make sure this is the norm, especially if the local rep can't get it sorted out locally because of a PITA DOM.
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crammypostie1
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
why hasnt my pal terrier shed any light on this?
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
Because the original question is unanswerable, and to be honest the disrespect you show to others posties on here, and your obvious trolling techniques don't lend me to answering your questions before others.crammypostie1 wrote:why hasnt my pal terrier shed any light on this?
There is no specific entitlement to getting Saturdays off - I personally have not had one in 10 years.crammypostie1 wrote:Curious.... if your a reserve... whats your entitlement towards recieving saturdays off.... can royal mail make you go 12 months without a saturday off?
Can RM make you work 12 months without a Saturday - Yes and No -
It depends on what the local agreements are and if you have rotating days off. If you do then reserves and part timers should get the same chances as full timers and fixed duties otherwise its unfair. However as most duty holders tend to plan leave to coincide with a Saturday off, its unlikely a reserve will ever be on a duty that has a Saturday off so it can difficult for management to arrange.
If you are on fixed days then it is a little unclear if you should get a certain amount of Saturdays off as no one else does (except those lucky enough to get a duty with a fixed Saturday off) but normally the day off of the duty should remain the same for the reserve covering the duty as it is for the holder.
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mandelsons_toenail
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
Bt2010
You are entitled to 1 in 4 sats off
You are entitled to 1 in 4 sats off
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fishtank
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
While that might or might not have been the spirit of the agreement it doesn't say that.mandelsons_toenail wrote:Bt2010
You are entitled to 1 in 4 sats off
Personally I think both Royal Mail and the union have let down the members over saturday attendances.Whilst the precise number of Saturdays off and the aspirations of employees will vary from unit to unit, both parties believe we can deliver cost effective and reliable options that will maximise the number of Saturdays off for those who wish them.
Royal Mail and CWU commit to achieving at least 1 in 4 Saturdays off for the majority of employees (including reserves) during the roll out of the operational transformation programme
Meh.Progress on all the issues/objectives above will be jointly monitored and reviewed at national level on an ongoing basis.
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mandelsons_toenail
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
The extract "for the majority of staff" is for those on wallingtons who get a week off every six.
Work five with week off.
Royal Mail know this, just need decent area rep to sort it.
I have it in writing from a rm line manager that he will give all reserves 1 in 4 off after studying the agreement
Work five with week off.
Royal Mail know this, just need decent area rep to sort it.
I have it in writing from a rm line manager that he will give all reserves 1 in 4 off after studying the agreement
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fishtank
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
Where does it say that?mandelsons_toenail wrote:The extract "for the majority of staff" is for those on wallingtons who get a week off every six.
Sorry but not much help coming from a line manager.I have it in writing from a rm line manager that he will give all reserves 1 in 4 off after studying the agreement
Now if you could get a Regional Finance Director to sign it.
Some Area Reps were responsible for blocking 1 in 4 saturdays in certain areas.just need decent area rep to sort it.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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BingBong
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Re: Reserves saturday entitlement?
i get 1 in 6...pretty much everytime. i normally tell my rep about 2 weeks before when its due. he's pretty good but im aware that some reps arent great too.
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mandelsons_toenail
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