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annual leave
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mad leveller
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annual leave
does anyone know if line managers are allowed to allocate any unbooked leave that you have left ? , just because they want it all sorted for the year.
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RobertT
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Re: annual leave
Not in my office, the DIM won't let anyone but himself do it.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: annual leave
mad leveller wrote:does anyone know if line managers are allowed to allocate any unbooked leave that you have left ? , just because they want it all sorted for the year.
Complicated:
They must ensure you get the statutory holidays minimum within a leave year thats the law.
They can tell you when to take it within certain rules.
But, it may be against CWU agreements - but I don't think so.
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UnhappyGremlin
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Re: annual leave
I believe that they are allowed to book outstanding leave, but there are rules governing this, though I don't know all of them.
A few things I would argue are:
1) You are allowed to carry over 5 days to the following years leave, so the manager should never book leave that would bring you below this level.
2) You should also have been given ample opportunity to book the leave yourself, and as far as I'm concerned, the manager should announce a final date by which leave should be booked, and put a notice up also, stating outstanding leave would be allocated.
3) If you are saving your days for a future event, e.g. you know you will need time off but are unsure of the date as yet of a special event like a wedding, then make them aware of this, as you will obviously book it ASAP.
4) Even if they allocate it, it can be changed later, though you will likely be restricted on availability.
It won't surprise anyone to know that the leave allocated by the manager will be done so at times convenient to them, i.e. so it's easier to staff.
I also had manager once that tried to rebook some leave of some of the staff as they had no one off on one particular week, and they tried to force a couple to take some leave the week after, but the posties just said that the remaining time they had was booked when they had a holiday abroad.
A few things I would argue are:
1) You are allowed to carry over 5 days to the following years leave, so the manager should never book leave that would bring you below this level.
2) You should also have been given ample opportunity to book the leave yourself, and as far as I'm concerned, the manager should announce a final date by which leave should be booked, and put a notice up also, stating outstanding leave would be allocated.
3) If you are saving your days for a future event, e.g. you know you will need time off but are unsure of the date as yet of a special event like a wedding, then make them aware of this, as you will obviously book it ASAP.
4) Even if they allocate it, it can be changed later, though you will likely be restricted on availability.
It won't surprise anyone to know that the leave allocated by the manager will be done so at times convenient to them, i.e. so it's easier to staff.
I also had manager once that tried to rebook some leave of some of the staff as they had no one off on one particular week, and they tried to force a couple to take some leave the week after, but the posties just said that the remaining time they had was booked when they had a holiday abroad.
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