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Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neighbour

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broadlea
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Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neighbour

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Reading the Courier it suggests that only special delivery and international items are exempt from delivery to neighbour.Reading the FAQ's on the royal mail website question 11..WHAT ABOUT RECORDED SIGNED FOR.I AM PAYING A FEE FOR A SIGNATURE AND YET YOU WILL BE DELIVERING TO A NEIGHBOUR...We will continue to request a signature for recorded signed for items,where a delivery to neighbour is applied we will request that the accepting neighbour provides the signature.The only exception to this is citations(which carry appropriate instructions on the envelope)sent recorded signed for by the Scottish courts where we have a legal requirement to deliver as addressed.Question 14...I DO NOT WANT THE ITEM I I AM SENDING DELIVERED TO A NEIGHBOUR.I WANT IT DELIVERED DIRECTLY TO THE PERSON I HAVE ADDRESSED IT TO...Senders of mail are not able to opt out and request that the item are delivered to the intended recipient only,If the recipient is not at home for recorded signed for or for packages that are too large for the letterbox then these items will be delivered to a neighbour unless the recipient or neighbour has opted out of delivery to neighbour .All these suggest that we can deliver recorded signed for items to neighbours,my Dom says he has been told anything requiring a signature cannot be left with a neighbour.Who is correct?..and shouldn't we all be singing off the same hymn sheet .What is the official version.
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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

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This would be for me personal judgement - which is the defining principle behind the "Delivery to a neighbour scheme" and until the confusion is cleared up by the Manager giving you written instructions, then I would go for the safe option of everything needing a signature is returned to the office.
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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

Post by halfull »

who has got time to knock more than one door for an item???
Postman Pâté
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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

Post by Postman Pâté »

What about recorded letters? Obtain a signature from the neighbour and then post as addressed?
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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

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Postman Pâté wrote:What about recorded letters? Obtain a signature from the neighbour and then post as addressed?
No, leave with neighbour.
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halfull wrote:who has got time to knock more than one door for an item???

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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

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for those that have had a revision,have you been allocated more time to carry out this delivery to a neighbour nonsense ? If not, why are the union so quiet on this subject ? Are they just going to accept the rm story that it doesnt add any extra time to our delivery span.
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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

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chickenwittle wrote:for those that have had a revision,have you been allocated more time to carry out this delivery to a neighbour nonsense ? If not, why are the union so quiet on this subject ? Are they just going to accept the rm story that it doesnt add any extra time to our delivery span.
The answer to that is NO! In fact in our office when it first came in we didn't have a wtl or anything about it! Management know it carn't be done in time, so we carry on as normal. Utter shambles.
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Post by dvbuk55 »

Why get in a tizzy - the agreement states quite clearly that the decision to leave with a neighbour is solely at the posties discretion.
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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

Post by Glenno »

broadlea wrote:Reading the Courier it suggests that only special delivery and international items are exempt from delivery to neighbour.Reading the FAQ's on the royal mail website question 11..WHAT ABOUT RECORDED SIGNED FOR.I AM PAYING A FEE FOR A SIGNATURE AND YET YOU WILL BE DELIVERING TO A NEIGHBOUR...We will continue to request a signature for recorded signed for items,where a delivery to neighbour is applied we will request that the accepting neighbour provides the signature.The only exception to this is citations(which carry appropriate instructions on the envelope)sent recorded signed for by the Scottish courts where we have a legal requirement to deliver as addressed.Question 14...I DO NOT WANT THE ITEM I I AM SENDING DELIVERED TO A NEIGHBOUR.I WANT IT DELIVERED DIRECTLY TO THE PERSON I HAVE ADDRESSED IT TO...Senders of mail are not able to opt out and request that the item are delivered to the intended recipient only,If the recipient is not at home for recorded signed for or for packages that are too large for the letterbox then these items will be delivered to a neighbour unless the recipient or neighbour has opted out of delivery to neighbour .All these suggest that we can deliver recorded signed for items to neighbours,my Dom says he has been told anything requiring a signature cannot be left with a neighbour.Who is correct?..and shouldn't we all be singing off the same hymn sheet .What is the official version.


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Trial product Specification

Packets, Tracked, and Recorded Signed for products are all included in the new service.
Special Delivery and International items requiring a signature are not part of the service and normal operational processes will continue to apply to these items.
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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

Post by malcolm3011 »

dvbuk55 wrote:Why get in a tizzy - the agreement states quite clearly that the decision to leave with a neighbour is solely at the posties discretion.
Not in our office a check is being made on all items brought back to the calllers office to see whether attempts were made with neighbours :arrrghhh
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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

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malcolm3011 wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:Why get in a tizzy - the agreement states quite clearly that the decision to leave with a neighbour is solely at the posties discretion.
Not in our office a check is being made on all items brought back to the calllers office to see whether attempts were made with neighbours :arrrghhh
What they're going out and knocking on the neighbours doors to see if you've tried?
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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

Post by eastie »

Some of these recorded items come from Magistrates and County Courts.
Dont think the intended recipient would be particularly happy if he found out their neighbour signed for the recorded item and them now knowing something that is confidential.
Plus where does that stand with the Courts if they have sent an item out expecting it to be sent to a witness or defendant they will presume they have received it if they see a signiture
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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

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eastie wrote:Some of these recorded items come from Magistrates and County Courts.
Dont think the intended recipient would be particularly happy if he found out their neighbour signed for the recorded item and them now knowing something that is confidential.
Plus where does that stand with the Courts if they have sent an item out expecting it to be sent to a witness or defendant they will presume they have received it if they see a signiture

I'm not sure about anywhere else but in Scotland Court Citations are excluded from the Deliver To Neighbour Scam/Scheme.


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5. Some of my mail includes sensitive, personal information such as legal papers, bank statements, credit cards, bills etc; I wouldn’t want these delivered to neighbours.

First and second class (non signature) letters will be posted through your door as usual, which includes items such as bank statements, credit card bills, etc. Special Delivery™, inbound international signature and Do Not Redirect items are excluded from the Delivery to Neighbour service along with citations (which carry the appropriate instruction) sent Recorded Signed For™ by the Scottish Courts. Delivery to Neighbour is mainly aimed at helping you get easier access to items that are too large to fit through your letter-box
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Re: Confusion over Recorded Signed For And Delivery to Neigh

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Easy way: If the person isn't in, 739 it and don't bother messing around trying to find a neighbour who is in.