Help regarding bags on shoulder

[dan1986ccfc]

Can somebody please tell me what the max weight is you can carry on your shoulder please?

[fishtank]

Assuming you haven't had a delivery methods revision....

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=27236" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The new standard would be based on a new arrangement that the maximum weight of the first pouch will remain at 16 Kg but the maximum pouch weight of the second and all subsequent pouches will be 11 Kg.

[dan1986ccfc]

Thanks, but yeah we have had the revision. I've been telling my manager that you shouldn't be carrying any weight on your shoulder now but he disagrees...?

[ashadd]

Assuming you haven't had a delivery methods revision....

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=27236" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The new standard would be based on a new arrangement that the maximum weight of the first pouch will remain at 16 Kg but the maximum pouch weight of the second and all subsequent pouches will be 11 Kg.

I thaught 16k max was for bikes only, and now under the new revision the max for walking into flats etc was 8k.

[fishtank]

Thanks, but yeah we have had the revision. I've been telling my manager that you shouldn't be carrying any weight on your shoulder now but he disagrees...?

On what basis does he disagree.
The delivery revision process and agreement are clear.
Walks must be risk assessed at the planning stage by the planner and H&S rep to determine the most suitable delivery method.
Once assigned to a duty the use of these specific delivery methods is mandatory.
Does he know better?

[SP115]

Assuming you haven't had a delivery methods revision....

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=27236" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The new standard would be based on a new arrangement that the maximum weight of the first pouch will remain at 16 Kg but the maximum pouch weight of the second and all subsequent pouches will be 11 Kg.

I thaught 16k max was for bikes only, and now under the new revision the max for walking into flats etc was 8k.

This is what I was told on my induction, 16kg for bikes / trolleys, Max 8KG if carrying on shoulder when trolly is of no use.

[clashcityrocker]

But you would still be carrying weight if you are delivering to flats or if the terrain is incompatible with trolley use.
5 kg is the max - though I have heard 8kg bandied about and then the unbelievable "the 5kg is only aspirational" comment.

Personally if/where I can't use a trolley, I carry what I can hold in my hand and nothing else.
I doubt they would conduct me for it.

[Danelectro]

under the new revision the max for walking into flats etc was 8k.

who told you it was 8kg?

[ashadd]

Not sure where I heard it, its one of those things you hear, it could even be 5k, BUT,only carry what you can manage,without straining yourself, and certainly don't carry 16k.In fact, if its flats you deliver to I recommend 5k, until your dim can prove otherwise.

[chooch]

fishtank wrote: 'The delivery revision process and agreement are clear.
Walks must be risk assessed at the planning stage by the planner and H&S rep to determine the most suitable delivery method.
Once assigned to a duty the use of these specific delivery methods is mandatory.'

So ask your H&S rep. (don't know who it is, ask your 'manager'!); our planner made such a dogs dinner of it he's gone and disappeared!!

[Danelectro]

Not sure where I heard it, its one of those things you hear, it could even be 5k, BUT,only carry what you can manage,without straining yourself, and certainly don't carry 16k.In fact, if its flats you deliver to I recommend 5k, until your dim can prove otherwise.

I was just interested if it was the rep who suggested 8kg was okay because like clash above it seems to be getting bandied about when as far as I know its 5kg max on any delivery over 3.30 hours.The outdoor department should really get a chart printed up and sent out to each member giving each delivery scenario as during the implementation there starts to be a blurring of the max weights and a wee drop of local agreement thrown in just to try and make the revision work ...and then suddenly 11kg in a multistorey is okay too,which is what has been agreed and signed off in an office I know.

[chooch]

fishtank wrote: 'The delivery revision process and agreement are clear.
Walks must be risk assessed at the planning stage by the planner and H&S rep to determine the most suitable delivery method.
Once assigned to a duty the use of these specific delivery methods is mandatory.'


What's not to understand!!

[Danelectro]

fishtank wrote: 'The delivery revision process and agreement are clear.
Walks must be risk assessed at the planning stage by the planner and H&S rep to determine the most suitable delivery method.
Once assigned to a duty the use of these specific delivery methods is mandatory.'


What's not to understand!!

whats not to understand is when reps sign off revisions without following the above process or under pressure start making local agreements on h&s that bear no resemblance to the whole' weight off your back' promise of the agreement.So theres theory and practice and the practice is not being monitored very well so all kinds of local working practices spring up.You would have to ask the reps in question why this happens because most members/staff believe any old s**t if you say it often enough.

[dan1986ccfc]

Thanks, but yeah we have had the revision. I've been telling my manager that you shouldn't be carrying any weight on your shoulder now but he disagrees...?

On what basis does he disagree.
The delivery revision process and agreement are clear.
Walks must be risk assessed at the planning stage by the planner and H&S rep to determine the most suitable delivery method.
Once assigned to a duty the use of these specific delivery methods is mandatory.
Does he know better?

Basically I'm on lates over Xmas and as soon as I get in I'm sent out to help with a park and loop round. There are no extra lightweight trolleys available so I'm expected to carry a bag - some of these bags are too heavy but I'm told to 'man up' !!

[clashcityrocker]

- some of these bags are too heavy but I'm told to 'man up' !!

The correct response to "man up" is "eff off".
It would be advisable to have your manager put that in writing in case any injury was sustained while carrying one of these bags.