4am starts?

[pop it in pete]

Can anyone tell me if a night allowance should be paid to staff starting 4.am or 5am sorting over Christmass presure period, prior to starting their normal delivery duties.
I think it used to be in the way forward agreement but seem to think most allowance payments were done away with BT2012.

[hampshireman]

Can anyone tell me if a night allowance should be paid to staff starting 4.am or 5am sorting over Christmass presure period, prior to starting their normal delivery duties.
I think it used to be in the way forward agreement but seem to think most allowance payments were done away with BT2012.

Not a clue... But BT2012?

[drb]

The allowances remain as per the way forward. BT2010 affirms Pay & Mod (removal of nights only). It also affirms The Way Forward and the interim agreement and MTFS 2. There:fore,here is the Way Forward On allowances:

SHIFT ALLOWANCES

There will be assigned shift allowances, paid all-year-round including during holidays and short-term sickness
(periods up to two months), for jobholders with attendances as follows:


Dawn shift (starts between 0201-1400) =
Early shift (starts between 0401-0500) =
Early shift (starts between 0501-0530) =
Evening shift (finishes between 2000-2139) =
Late shift (finishes between 2140-0159) =
Night shift (three hours worked across 2300-0500) =


£20.40 per week fully pensionable
£10.71 per week fully pensionable
£5.36 per week fully pensionable
£15.30 per week fully pensionable
£31.62 per week fully pensionable
£61.20 per week (of which £31.62 is pensionable

and the remainder non-pensionable, balancing against the higher basic pay)

Split duties (conditioned hours of a single contract
Involving two daily non-continuous attendances,

£8.67 pw if total span over 10 hours,
£17.34 pw if total span over 12.5 hrs,

Covering at least four days or nights of the week) £25.50 pw if total span over 15 hours.

(All of the above times are inclusive. Only one allowance may be claimed for any given conditioned attendance,
except that Split Duties will be paid Split Duty Allowance plus the highest of any appropriate shift allowances)

Employees on rotations will receive an average payment reflecting the average of the various conditioned
attendances, with additional considerations affecting their leave selection as set out in this agreement in the
section on annual leave.

Employees not receiving an assigned allowance who are required to attend ad hoc within conditioned hours on a
relevant shift (e.g. as a reserve) will receive a one-off pensionable (or part-pensionable at night) and contributory
payment for each attendance. This will be equal to the weekly amount divided by the number of attendances to
which they are conditioned for that week (e.g. for a single night shift of a five day week it would be £12.24).
Where someone is required to work ad hoc within conditioned hours on a shift attracting a higher payment than
their usual job then the additional payment will be based on the difference between the two shift payments.
However where employees arrange with their Resourcing Unit to exchange or swap their attendance voluntarily
for personal reasons, for a period of less than a week, there will be no additional payment and no change to the
normal shift payment arrangements for the employees involved. For temporary shift changes of a week or more,
the allowance will be paid to each employee at the appropriate rate for the shift actually worked.

[pop it in pete]

Thanks drb, so that looks like anyone starting over christmas presure period at my place from 4am will attract an allowance of £10.71 per week?

[fishtank]

In deliveries....
Dawn shift is grandfather rights only,and reduced if you receive the delivery supplement..
ESA 1 and ESA 2 have gone,subsumed into said delivery supplement.
Sorry pete.

[pop it in pete]

I thought we lost it in the bloody BT2010 So no allowance then.
Thanks for the correction.

[edwardo]

Can anyone tell me if a night allowance should be paid to staff starting 4.am or 5am sorting over Christmass presure period, prior to starting their normal delivery duties.
I think it used to be in the way forward agreement but seem to think most allowance payments were done away with BT2012.

our start time is 6 40 am and thats full timers