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What is mail flow all about?
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GHOSTman
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What is mail flow all about?
Anyone have any idea what mail flow is all about? any offices been through it, if so, what are the problems with it? Cheers.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
Mail flow is about......savings.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Hitcher
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
It's when the postman chucks it in the river.


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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
Thats Downstream ain't it.Hitcher wrote:It's when the postman chucks it in the river.
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
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Task 09e - DP Indoor work method improvement Gantt Chart (Feb 12)
Task 09f - DP Indoor Scope and Assets
Task 14a - DP Indoor Work Method improvement start up Meeting Agenda
Task 14b - DP Delivery Office Site Inspection
Task 14c - DP Indoor Method Improvement Agenda for Workshop
Task 14d - DP Indoor Work Method Improvement Principles Overview v3
Task 14e - DP Safety Concurrence - Indoor Work Method Improvement Final
Task 14f - DP Royal Mail & CWU Indoor Methods Guidance V1
Task 15a - DP Excel Floor Planning Tool to Use (C)
Task 15c - DP How to Use the Excel Floorplanning Tool Guide
Task 16 - DP IWT Version 7 4 Upgrade_Quick Reference Guide
Task 20a - DP Sorting Frame Requirement Indicator Guidelines v2.0
Task 20b - DP Sorting Frame Requirement Indicator Master v2.0
Task 22a - DP Floorplanning Checklist v2
Task 22b - DP Indoor work method improvement space standards v1.4
Task 22c - DP SAC3 Unit pre deployemnt Q set Feb Final 2012
Task 22d - DP Unit Risk Assessment Review
Task 22f - DP Indoor Pre Method Improvment Photograph List
Task 23a DP Excel Floor Planning Tool to Use
Task 23b - DP Indoor work method improvement space standards v1.4 Final
Task 31a - DP Unit Indoor work methods layout Sign off [CA]
Task 31b - DP SAC1 v2.5 (for building and Refurbishment work) [CA]
Task 45a - DP Measurement and Display Slides [R]
Task 45b - DP Tracked and SD Measurement and Display chart [C]
Task 45c - DP Manual Measurement and Display Boards_v1.0 (C)
Task 45d - DP Where to find Planned Actual Performance data within IWT for Display v1.0 [R]
Task 45e - DP Daily Huddles Guidance [R]
Task 46a - DP IPS Fillets - Best Practice Examples [R]
Task 47a - DP SSOW IPS Backless FrameTrolley V1.5 Final [R]
Task 47b - DP York Safe System Of Work v2.3 [R]
Task 47c - DP Training Frame-Trolley1.1 [R]
Task 47d - DP Work Equipment Risk Assessment [C]
Task 48a - DP SAC3 Unit pre deployemnt Q set Feb Final 2012
Task 48b - DP Workplace Risk Assessmemt Manual WP1 [C]
Task 48c - DP First Aid Risk Assessment v 2.3 (C)
Task 48d - DP Fire Risk Assessment Guidance [R]
Task 48e - DP Fire Risk Assessment Review [C]
Task 65a - DP Delivery Office FM Works Completion sign off [CA]
Task 65b - DP Example Method Statement [R]
Task 65c - DP Job completion sheet vers 0.2 (R)
Task 66a - DP SSOW IPS Backless FrameTrolley V1.5 Final [R]
Task 66b - DP York Safe System Of Work v2.3 [R]
Task 66c - DP Training Frame-Trolley1.1 [R]
Task 106a - DP Indoor work method PER [CA]
Task 106b - DP Final Layout Changes [R]
Task 106c - DP SAC3 Unit Post deployment Q set Feb Final
Task 144c - DP Post Indoor Flow Photograph List [CA]
Task 150b - DP Indoor Flow Layout Deployed Sign off [CA]
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dvbuk55
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
Didn't realise it was such a complex affair.
In our office the first we knew was some blokes turned up to do a "survey" and hey presto 5 months down the line the frames arrive complete with a gang of "who knows who" putting them up - this week end and as I don't work Mondays I haven't seen the end result yet...............
In our office the first we knew was some blokes turned up to do a "survey" and hey presto 5 months down the line the frames arrive complete with a gang of "who knows who" putting them up - this week end and as I don't work Mondays I haven't seen the end result yet...............
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daveyeff
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
if its the ''indoor flow'' you.re on about, its supposed to be put in place before you get some of the lump sum we get for the revisions. our indoor is now fully in place. we,ve got 2 primaries back to back with a space inbetween the back of them for a 'porter' to clear down peoples mail for them ( the primaries have open backed frames with luggage cords to stop mail falling out the back, and the porter just accesses the mail through these cords) he then loads up his trolley with trays of mail that he clears down for people, and takes it round to the relevant prep frames and gives it to a ''dedicated prepper'' so he has a constant supply of mail as he preps 2 dutys over the space of the morning. the ''porter'' does this all morning, in turn HIS duty is being prepped in by a ''dedicated prepper''.... on the primary you have ''dedicated sorters'' who sort mail all morning while they in turn are being prepped in by a ''dedicated prepper'. there are no flats frames any more, ALL the mail goes into the primary. they are a4 sized boxes so you get flats AND letters in the same box that the ''porter'' clears down for you...., over at the ''bullring'' you have miniture yorks ( about half normal size) with the red collapseable cover on them. these are you,re new ''packet bags''. (there are no drop bag frames anymore)into these, all you,re packets and parcels are sorted by,,,,,you,ve guessed it,,,a ''dedicated packet soter'', he, in turn, has his duty prepped in by a ''dedicated prepper''. when you are ready, you go over to the bullring a get you,re miniture yorkie, and wheel it over to you,re prep frame to mark up you,re packets. oh, i forgot, the porter also brings you you,re sequenced mail trays round to you,re prep frame as well as you,re manual mail. its all happy days,,,until you tell them you are not extending,,, because you,ve been pulled off you,re prep duty to help on the primary or in the bullring because they dont have enough people to run the office efficiently.GHOSTman wrote:Anyone have any idea what mail flow is all about? any offices been through it, if so, what are the problems with it? Cheers.
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dvbuk55
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
Wow that sounds brilliant! We managed to get the backless frames in but porters? we didn't have enough people to extend to "dedicated porters" - so we do have double preppers but we've had them for over a year, so really it's the same old same old but from the back..................of course some people prefer it thst waydaveyeff wrote:if its the ''indoor flow'' you.re on about, its supposed to be put in place before you get some of the lump sum we get for the revisions. our indoor is now fully in place. we,ve got 2 primaries back to back with a space inbetween the back of them for a 'porter' to clear down peoples mail for them ( the primaries have open backed frames with luggage cords to stop mail falling out the back, and the porter just accesses the mail through these cords) he then loads up his trolley with trays of mail that he clears down for people, and takes it round to the relevant prep frames and gives it to a ''dedicated prepper'' so he has a constant supply of mail as he preps 2 dutys over the space of the morning. the ''porter'' does this all morning, in turn HIS duty is being prepped in by a ''dedicated prepper''.... on the primary you have ''dedicated sorters'' who sort mail all morning while they in turn are being prepped in by a ''dedicated prepper'. there are no flats frames any more, ALL the mail goes into the primary. they are a4 sized boxes so you get flats AND letters in the same box that the ''porter'' clears down for you...., over at the ''bullring'' you have miniture yorks ( about half normal size) with the red collapseable cover on them. these are you,re new ''packet bags''. (there are no drop bag frames anymore)into these, all you,re packets and parcels are sorted by,,,,,you,ve guessed it,,,a ''dedicated packet soter'', he, in turn, has his duty prepped in by a ''dedicated prepper''. when you are ready, you go over to the bullring a get you,re miniture yorkie, and wheel it over to you,re prep frame to mark up you,re packets. oh, i forgot, the porter also brings you you,re sequenced mail trays round to you,re prep frame as well as you,re manual mail. its all happy days,,,until you tell them you are not extending,,, because you,ve been pulled off you,re prep duty to help on the primary or in the bullring because they dont have enough people to run the office efficiently.GHOSTman wrote:Anyone have any idea what mail flow is all about? any offices been through it, if so, what are the problems with it? Cheers.![]()
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
Not seen a postman's uniform like that before.Hitcher wrote:It's when the postman chucks it in the river.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
What is mail flow all about?
the same as everything in life. It all flows downhill.
the same as everything in life. It all flows downhill.
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IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
The problem is that the porters tend not to keep in sync with the walk preppers, so while some frames can be swamped in "cleared down" trays, other preppers end up regularly clearing down themselves to keep the walk prep ticking over. And that's before we even talk about the Monday morning chaos of the porters needing to also distribute all the D2D inbetween clearing IPS...
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dvbuk55
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
Well according to the plan there should be D2D lockers at each frame to store them in - except of course we haven't got room for them - the planners obviously thought the savings would create more room than it actually has.IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:The problem is that the porters tend not to keep in sync with the walk preppers, so while some frames can be swamped in "cleared down" trays, other preppers end up regularly clearing down themselves to keep the walk prep ticking over. And that's before we even talk about the Monday morning chaos of the porters needing to also distribute all the D2D inbetween clearing IPS...
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daveyeff
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
as i sais,,,its all happy days 
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IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
D2D lockers? Are those invisible things that allow you to chuck the bundles anywhere under the RM2000 frame?dvbuk55 wrote:Well according to the plan there should be D2D lockers at each frame to store them in - except of course we haven't got room for them - the planners obviously thought the savings would create more room than it actually has.IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:The problem is that the porters tend not to keep in sync with the walk preppers, so while some frames can be swamped in "cleared down" trays, other preppers end up regularly clearing down themselves to keep the walk prep ticking over. And that's before we even talk about the Monday morning chaos of the porters needing to also distribute all the D2D inbetween clearing IPS...
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dvbuk55
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Re: What is mail flow all about?
I don't know what they are because I haven't seen them but they are in the plan for flow through.IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:D2D lockers? Are those invisible things that allow you to chuck the bundles anywhere under the RM2000 frame?dvbuk55 wrote:Well according to the plan there should be D2D lockers at each frame to store them in - except of course we haven't got room for them - the planners obviously thought the savings would create more room than it actually has.IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:The problem is that the porters tend not to keep in sync with the walk preppers, so while some frames can be swamped in "cleared down" trays, other preppers end up regularly clearing down themselves to keep the walk prep ticking over. And that's before we even talk about the Monday morning chaos of the porters needing to also distribute all the D2D inbetween clearing IPS...