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Thou MUST Drive!!!
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FergusPostie
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Thou MUST Drive!!!
Anybody else been told by DOM and/or Union Rep, if you can drive, you will likely be placed on a driving job, even if you've signed for a HCT or indoor duty?
After 20 years of service, and with no wish to do a driving duty, especially after the drivers allowance has ceased, I think I have earned the choice.
Is this fair enough, or is this a continuation of the bullying that was suppose to end after the last dispute?
After 20 years of service, and with no wish to do a driving duty, especially after the drivers allowance has ceased, I think I have earned the choice.
Is this fair enough, or is this a continuation of the bullying that was suppose to end after the last dispute?
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steviemac
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
There are many variety of driving duties, vans or car derived vans are just mobile pouch boxes , use your head and the weight can be less than what you are carrying now , don't worry.
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FergusPostie
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
Not worried, just think I should have the right to sign for whatever type of job I like, without having my hand forced.steviemac wrote:There are many variety of driving duties, vans or car derived vans are just mobile pouch boxes , use your head and the weight can be less than what you are carrying now , don't worry.
i'm well aware of the different types of driving duties. I just don't see why I should drive, if i'm not being paid for the responsibility.
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Pinky 1
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
You can't drive for Royal Mail until you've had a changeover test, for insurance purposes, so all you have to do is deliberately fail it.
Saying that, it's sometimes harder to fail than to pass
Saying that, it's sometimes harder to fail than to pass
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tiggle
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
Pinky 1 wrote:You can't drive for Royal Mail until you've had a changeover test, for insurance purposes, so all you have to do is deliberately fail it.
Saying that, it's sometimes harder to fail than to pass
you dont have to fail it, just dont take the test, you dont have to
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Pinky 1
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
tiggle wrote:you dont have to fail it, just dont take the test, you dont have toPinky 1 wrote:You can't drive for Royal Mail until you've had a changeover test, for insurance purposes, so all you have to do is deliberately fail it.
Saying that, it's sometimes harder to fail than to pass
But the OP is complaining about bullying colleagues into taking the test, which could continue until it's taken.
Why not fail the test initially, and end it there ?
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
Or perhaps the original post is from someone who has previously driven for RM but wishes they had the option not to under Park and Loop?
They still have the right not to drive but a non-driving duty may only be available to them in another DO.
They still have the right not to drive but a non-driving duty may only be available to them in another DO.
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FergusPostie
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
Pinky 1 wrote:you dont have to fail it, just dont take the test, you dont have totiggle wrote:uote="Pinky 1"]You can't drive for Royal Mail until you've had a changeover test, for insurance purposes, so all you have to do is deliberately fail it.
Saying that, it's sometimes harder to fail than to pass
I've already passed the test, as I have been on a driving duty before, but hated and, and have been on walks ever since.But the OP is complaining about bullying colleagues into taking the test, which could continue until it's taken.
Why not fail the test initially, and end it there ?
My main complaint is the fact that i'm basically being told what type of duty to sign for and this is being endorsed by the CWU rep, due to the fact that there is a shortage of drivers in our DO and they've threw in a load of van share duties.
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Pinky 1
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
Then i think you'll find that ccr is right ...........
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FergusPostie
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
Not really, because with 20 years service, there are plenty of non driving options open to me. It's not like there are only driving duties left.Pinky 1 wrote:Then i think you'll find that ccr is right ...........
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madmartin
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
Just keep hitting the van, you'll soon get taken off driving then :-)
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ronpetetrevchris
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
During transformation negotiations reps were told (as the question came up often) that no-body would be forced to drive, and alternative duties or non driver role would be found.
Then, as you say, came the pressure from lino's. We successfully defended the right to not drive by asking for original contracts that said nothing about driving role. Pressure WAS applied we saw it off, i read into that that you cant be made to if you dont want to.
Why would the rep be trying to push members into something they dont want, id ask if he has the right info, doms and linos will tell him anything.
Then, as you say, came the pressure from lino's. We successfully defended the right to not drive by asking for original contracts that said nothing about driving role. Pressure WAS applied we saw it off, i read into that that you cant be made to if you dont want to.
Why would the rep be trying to push members into something they dont want, id ask if he has the right info, doms and linos will tell him anything.
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ronpetetrevchris
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
Then just choose of and into what you want, im pretty sure you cant restrict choice in a re-pick, unless hour change or ring fenced duties.FergusPostie wrote:Not really, because with 20 years service, there are plenty of non driving options open to me. It's not like there are only driving duties left.Pinky 1 wrote:Then i think you'll find that ccr is right ...........
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POSTMAN
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
Have we had a situation on here yet where someone has been forced to drive against their wishes or someone has been shunted to another DO because they have either refused to drive or is unable to.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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FergusPostie
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Re: Thou MUST Drive!!!
In a previous revision in our DO, one of my collegues was threatened with transfer if they didnt drive. He caved in and just went on the duty, so the threat worked!POSTMAN wrote:Have we had a situation on here yet where someone has been forced to drive against their wishes or someone has been shunted to another DO because they have either refused to drive or is unable to.