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Would the RM be better of privatised
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zidangus
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Would the RM be better of privatised
I mean could a private company do any worse than the nuggets in charge of RM at the moment ?
Would a private company continue or even dream of inefficient practices such as P & L ?
Of course there will be lots of down sides to being in a private company, thats a given, but on a management side it surely could not be worse then the current lot.
Would a private company continue or even dream of inefficient practices such as P & L ?
Of course there will be lots of down sides to being in a private company, thats a given, but on a management side it surely could not be worse then the current lot.
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Darren Bent
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
I reckon we will get better and deliver earlier and more machine sorting mail. But we will be worse off in pay. I think we will do 3 walks between 2 people doing 4 days on one walk A and 2 days on other walk B for both of us and other person to do Walk C.
But no one knows until there is a privatision.
But no one knows until there is a privatision.
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BELIAL
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
In all probability it would be largely the same management with just private parasites that are new. On the up side ;a six week strike would probably bankrupt the lot of them ; Then what? no postal delivery service at all ,ever . Like to see how that pans outzidangus wrote:, but on a management side it surely could not be worse then the current lot.
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twobags
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
privatisation would mean greater job losses for both managers and workforce ,lots more work for less pay and no extra job security and more impotantly a much poorer service to the public 
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eroader
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
The reason this service is so crap at the moment,is to make privatisation look more appealing.
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baldrick
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
Privatisation (as in other industries) would mean job losses, cuts in services, and higher prices.
I think there would very quickly (within 12-18 months) be deliveries every other day, apart from city centres, and possibly weekly in remote areas. :dcfo :ncfo :vcfo
I think there would very quickly (within 12-18 months) be deliveries every other day, apart from city centres, and possibly weekly in remote areas. :dcfo :ncfo :vcfo
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brunswick
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
in answer to the question,they will you won't
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demon
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
if we were if they move everything back to normal they would make millions and everyone would be happy
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fishtank
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
Ask the Casuals... 
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
In the narrow view of your question I would answer - Yes its possible that the actual management of postal work could be done better than Royal Mail.zidangus wrote:I mean could a private company do any worse than the nuggets in charge of RM at the moment ?
Would a private company continue or even dream of inefficient practices such as P & L ?
Of course there will be lots of down sides to being in a private company, thats a given, but on a management side it surely could not be worse then the current lot.
However, as has been pointed out anyone taking over would have to, even if for just a limited time, work with the current management structure and incumbents.
Would anyone dream of inefficient practices - How about Holland where they can have 3 posties delivering letters to the same address all in the name of competition. Or IIRC delivery duties to Garages (lock up not petrol type) and changing rooms to pass on to the Delivery Officers as TNT does. Or another one of taking an unsorted delivery to a private address and making a "piece rate" worker sort it out at home before they do their duty, this was also Holland.
Could it be worse - By heck yes it could.
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fishtank
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
Roughly 60% of RM's costs are fixed.
That means they are not tied to revenue or volume.
The majority of those fixed costs are....us.
The plan is to get those fixed costs down to 40%.
Redundancies will not cut it,they are too expensive in the short term and you could argue that the network is already stretched to breaking point.
The only way to make those kind of savings is to drive down the wage bill...in a big way.
Would the RM be better off privatised?
If your intention is to make billions for your shareholders...definitely.

That means they are not tied to revenue or volume.
The majority of those fixed costs are....us.
The plan is to get those fixed costs down to 40%.
Redundancies will not cut it,they are too expensive in the short term and you could argue that the network is already stretched to breaking point.
The only way to make those kind of savings is to drive down the wage bill...in a big way.
Would the RM be better off privatised?
If your intention is to make billions for your shareholders...definitely.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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krussel
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
A private company is not going to pay me £24k for what i do
You will need to be at manager level for that. So no i dont think we will be better privatised.
You will need to be at manager level for that. So no i dont think we will be better privatised.
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london sub
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
I agree with the driving down the wage bill, which we have seen for years by the dangling a carrot infront of us and before you know it, its too late and we moan about the wages we are receiving now compared to 5 years ago. I can see the delivery supplement disappearing if royal mail goes private.fishtank wrote:Roughly 60% of RM's costs are fixed.
That means they are not tied to revenue or volume.
The majority of those fixed costs are....us.
The plan is to get those fixed costs down to 40%.
Redundancies will not cut it,they are too expensive in the short term and you could argue that the network is already stretched to breaking point.
The only way to make those kind of savings is to drive down the wage bill...in a big way.
Would the RM be better off privatised?
If your intention is to make billions for your shareholders...definitely.![]()
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arnold cheshire
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
more like 18 k unless your a docket kingkrussel wrote:A private company is not going to pay me £24k for what i do![]()
You will need to be at manager level for that. So no i dont think we will be better privatised.
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kawoxux
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Re: Would the RM be better of privatised
Its kind of a paradox.. profits come from running a good service, yet the service will inevitably suffer in the chasing of profits.
More accurately, like all privitisation, it'd be good for the few people at the top and everyone else, customers, postman, sorters, will get screwed over in a big way.
More accurately, like all privitisation, it'd be good for the few people at the top and everyone else, customers, postman, sorters, will get screwed over in a big way.