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the 39hour week

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brunswick
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the 39hour week

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how many full time workers actually get paidfor this ghost hour or are you as in some offices told that because tuesday is a light day you loose this hour,what then will be used to not pay for this hour when xmas pressure kicks in,and you find you are working over every day? beware how cunning rm can be.
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Royal Mail can 'try' to be cunning,reps should be more cunning and not allow banking of hrs where there is no agreement.
I don't understand your post too much lol but i'm guessing that is what you are on about.
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Are you saying your office is banking your time you finish early on a tuesday and keeping it till xmas so you dont claim at xmas?. :d'oh! :d'oh! :d'oh!
I hope ive got it wrong though as this aint allowed and your rep SHOULD know as well.
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just to clarify my post, it has come to my attention that some offices are telling full time workers that due to tuesdays being a light day and people are therefore completing their delivery early then they will not qualify for the 1 hour as per the 39 hour week,celerycelery what you are saying re accumulation of hours until xmas pressure kicks in is illegal, what i am saying is that when xmas pressure kicks in is that all full time workers should insist on payment of that hour or a reduction of 1hour in the working week
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Simple answer work your hours, don't finish early.

I manage to finish on time on light days, and claim about 30 mins excess on heavier days, funny that :nana
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brunswick wrote:just to clarify my post, it has come to my attention that some offices are telling full time workers that due to tuesdays being a light day and people are therefore completing their delivery early then they will not qualify for the 1 hour as per the 39 hour week,celerycelery what you are saying re accumulation of hours until xmas pressure kicks in is illegal, what i am saying is that when xmas pressure kicks in is that all full time workers should insist on payment of that hour or a reduction of 1hour in the working week
And the fall out is?
It's bullshit,'if' they have gone through the appropriate revision then they get the 39hr week,end of.Light tuesdays have nothing to do with it.
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Lateagainpostie wrote:Simple answer work your hours, don't finish early.

I manage to finish on time on light days, and claim about 30 mins excess on heavier days, funny that :nana
Same here,On time Monday & Tuesday book 30 mins Weds,Thurs & Fri.
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Post by wandle »

Errm. Maybe I'm being too logical, but wouldn't the sensible way to get to a 39hr week be to get the CWU to negotiate revisions so that duty times have either
a) 5 attendances of 7hrs48mins per week or
b) 4 attendances of 8hrs and 1 of 7hrs
making it much harder for management to attempt to 'steal' your hour when you get a light day ?

Better still, as one other person has said... work your hours, and ONLY your hours, and they can't shaft you. Forget the days of job-and-finish.
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on reflection because i can sense a degree of misunderstanding would it not be just the subject that the cwu send out to all reps clarification as to how the full time people are paid the 39hour week
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We agree a start time on a monday and a finish time on a monday.
Then we move on to tuesday etc.
At the end of the week it should add up to 39hrs.
That's your duty set...it's up to them to fill those hours with work...it's up to us to work them.
That's how the 39hr week works...it's like the 40hr week...but an hour less.
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Out of curiosity, are posties in post-revision depots getting the enhanced overtime rate after 39 hours, or do they have to do 1 hours o/t at the standard rate before "first ten hours" applies?
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We are still on the 40 hour week, are we all on the 39 hour week or do we have to wait till revision, not having one in the forseeable future
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rolf wrote:We are still on the 40 hour week, are we all on the 39 hour week or do we have to wait till revision, not having one in the forseeable future
You'll have to wait.
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The Dinton Hermit wrote:
Lateagainpostie wrote:Simple answer work your hours, don't finish early.

I manage to finish on time on light days, and claim about 30 mins excess on heavier days, funny that :nana
Same here,On time Monday & Tuesday book 30 mins Weds,Thurs & Fri.
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we are starting the 39hr week on 17th oct.....instead of starting at 6am is now going to be 12 minutes past 6 every morn. thats how were goin to lose the hr.