Temp Contract - fighting for pay

[Blue29]

Need some advice about how much to fight for due overtime pay. Like everyone RM obviously have been getting more work from me than monies paid to me. However the booking of overtime is never paid fully. For example one week I book 6 hours and get paid two OT. I book four hours and get paid one OT. It appears there's no way I can cut off as I van share and in any case the money would be useful. So, being on a temporary contract how much fight can I put up to get paid for the hours I work? I need to keep the job.

Also, who would be the member of staff that is 'turning down' or deciding not to pay my booked OT?

[Bernardson]

There must an overtime sheet which you are asked to sign to confirm your extended hours , make sure you get sight of this and confimation on the next day of your attendance.

[Blue29]

Thanks for replies.

Ever since I was told how to book OT I have been doing so. Of course I was never shown, nor was it mentioned in the initial stages and lost much OT pay in my first months. I have been using the forecast sheet and putting in actual the next day. It's not possible for me to cut off, as I'm in a van share. But that not my point, I've done the time - I'm owed money.

[Blue29]

not worth it your on less then min wage for it with all there fiddles.

Agreed

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

If i was you don,t bother doing any overtime not worth it your on less then min wage for it with all there fiddles.

thats actually a very very intresting and pertinent point! that never actually occurred to me before, so looked up for some info on this and if your on a casual contract getting paid min wage and over time is not getting paid then overall you are getting less than the minimum wage, you could very well go down this route

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[Judgee]

You CAN cut off! Get whoever works with you to drop you back at the office. If you are the driver, take the van back and leave your partner out delivering if they want to finish or take them back to the office too and let the managers sort it out!

You do not have to work past your contracted hours!


.... unless RM have put it in your contract? But it's not in mine!

[Blue29]

Thanks again for all thoughts. Excellent help - I will find out more through the phone number.

I really do understand what you mean saying I can cut off. But I am owed money. For the future will I be working OT with a history of not getting full pay for it? Well no actually. Yet to work out how to organise this, I can't see that asking a driver to return to the office incurring his OT will go down well. Being on the temp contract I'm aware I'm more disposable than a bic pen they don't issue us with. Having spoken to experienced staff in the DO they say - ah yes your on a temp so they'll just get rid if you dont do as they say. Bottom line is I need the pay but I won't be exploited.

[Viewfindergeneral]

The first thing to do is to ask your line manager why you haven't been paid for overtime you have performed and rightly claimed for. If their reply is to bull***t you then tell them that you are going to put in a grievance against them for illegally withholding your pay in relation to section 13 of the Employment Rights Act 1996.. If you get no joy with this then put in a second grievance but send it to the first managers boss. If no joy you can then put in a third stage grievance to HIS manager. At all stages inform them that if your outstanding overtime is not paid then you will put in a claim at small claims court. You can't do this until all internal grievance procedures have been exhausted. It's a long process but don't be disheartened if they try to ignore your grievances. You are in the right and if it goes to the courts then you will eventually get your money.

[thevardinator]

Another member of staff being short changed? Disgraceful.

No other company I've worked for would dare underpay a staff for the hours he's worked. Or force employees past there contracted finishing time.

Take them to court.

[wannabeek]

I'm in a very similar situation, it's usually only an hour or so missing off each week's pay (should usually be around the 10 hour mark). I'm keeping records, keep giving the manager copies of my printouts, and still the owed hours keep building up week by week.

It doesn't bother me to be honest, it just seems silly and petty that just small amounts are being knocked off each week. I keep on bringing it up like a broken record and I'll keep on doing so until the money comes. I also make sure that this wasted time it takes to remind the manager about the owed hours every week is always done in work time, obviously!

[Blue29]

The first thing to do is ..... then you will eventually get your money.

Thanks, very useful at this stage to know the internal procedure and how to work within it.

Bee man (sorry cant remember your name), thanks too for adding you're in a similar boat. I agree it is petty amounts, however they add up and for me a single hours makes a difference to living standard. Plus, and I think you are with me here, it's the morals of it.

Is it possible to say who decides to approve the OT pay? Or can it be blamed on a computer somewhere in the bowels of RM.

[POSTMAN]

Having spoken to experienced staff in the DO they say - ah yes your on a temp so they'll just get rid if you dont do as they say.

Nice,you didn't annoy them as they were tying up did you?

[Burge]

The amount you're due is neither here nor there. Keep on at them until they pay it, if need be follow the advice above. If it makes you feel any better, it's not just the casual staff they try and short change. Stick to your guns and you'll get what's owed you.

The full timers in that office should be ashamed if that's what they say to you. We tell our temporary staff to claim every penny they're due. I'm amazed how few of them do but they do change their tune once they've got that permanent contract.

[viking]

This happens on a daily/weekly basis at our office. I think it is a ploy by managers to think that by not paying you your due O/T, you will either get fed up of asking or forget how much you are actually due over a period of time. In most cases i hate to tell you that usually the managers win

[Burge]

which is why they do it