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why dont we refuse to talk to atos

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why dont we refuse to talk to atos

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im not one for having time of sick so why should i be rung up by atos for having two days off sick can anyone offer legal advice on this ? :crazy:
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How have they got your number?
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Re: why dont we refuse to talk to atos

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the dim gives them your number when youre off sick :crazy:
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dont get me started on f####### atos 4 phone calls to face to face with doctor in four months and now got told i have to go though it again it like they keep sending you till they get the answer they want i just wish i new what the f#### it was :crazy:
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bringon4dayweeks wrote:the dim gives them your number when youre off sick :crazy:
He's not allowed to unless you give him permission.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Re: why dont we refuse to talk to atos

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If they don't have your number, they'll send you a letter (they're supposed to send you one before a phone consultation anyway!) requesting a phone consultation. But if you refuse it, it'll be used against you by your Manager, when you return to work. The old "why didn't you want to talk to ATOS, were you faking it" comment! :Sick

It's pathetic really! :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
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andy2007 wrote:If they don't have your number, they'll send you a letter (they're supposed to send you one before a phone consultation anyway!) requesting a phone consultation. But if you refuse it, it'll be used against you by your Manager, when you return to work. The old "why didn't you want to talk to ATOS, were you faking it" comment! :Sick

It's pathetic really! :arrrghhh :arrrghhh
Yep. That's what happens even though I was in hospital fir 4 weeks and had the relevant paperwork to prove it, my dim still told me I was faking it and I've cost the firm a lot of money in sick pay etc and why wasn't I in when atos rang ...
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So i take they will still contact you if you've got a broken leg. I'm going to assume yes, and their reply.....get back to work, i'm sure you could manage halve a walk and don't forget your lapsing :Very Happy :Very Happy .
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Are there any agreement/guideance on what atos can and can't do , and how long before they can contact you and how often??
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i was under the impression that you couldnt be refered to ATOS without agreeing to it..........?
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BT2010 wrote:i was under the impression that you couldnt be refered to ATOS without agreeing to it..........?
Got a feeling if you don't agree to seeing ATOS they will use it against you, RM will say that they offered you help and support of ATOS and you turned it down :left: . Thats why i'm asking is there any official guidance on what can and can't be done regarding ATOS??
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whatamess!! wrote:
BT2010 wrote:i was under the impression that you couldnt be refered to ATOS without agreeing to it..........?
Got a feeling if you don't agree to seeing ATOS they will use it against you, RM will say that they offered you help and support of ATOS and you turned it down :left: . Thats why i'm asking is there any official guidance on what can and can't be done regarding ATOS??

im sure i read it on here somewhere but im damned if i can find it :sad:

so what are the up to date rules on this?
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In a funny way we used to look upon EHS as our friend but ATOS have changed that.
It used to be that YOU could choose between a face to face or telephone but now you will first be telephoned to set up an appointment for a follow up call to discuss your problems over the phone, it will then be decided whether you warrant a face to face appointment.
The Union(in general) don't believe that ATOS are the problem,they see it as an employer driven problem.
As far as agreements to protect you i think the Rehabilitation Agreement is still valid.
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bringon4dayweeks wrote:im not one for having time of sick so why should i be rung up by atos for having two days off sick can anyone offer legal advice on this ? :crazy:
only 2 days?? surely not!
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I had a phone consultation with ATOS in December, 100% positive experience.