Sick

[haveagojoe]

In my own experience yes!

[BELIAL]

Managers "discretion"

[Indy]

Does a medical condition still carry stage warning.

Of course, people here who've been diagnosed with Cancer have been given stages after taking time off for treatment.... broken legs etc etc I've NEVER EVER known a manager here to do anything other than issue the Stage.

[london sub]

The sick absence procedure is all wrong it punishes the people that are genuinely sick. Someone at my work had a motorbike accident could of been killed and dom gave a stage warning...you could be dead and the dom would still give you a stage even without you being there.

[Indy]

The sick absence procedure is all wrong it punishes the people that are genuinely sick. Someone at my work had a motorbike accident could of been killed and dom gave a stage warning...you could be dead and the dom would still give you a stage even without you being there.

When I asked how anyone could give a person who'd spent a week in intensive care after a serious heart attack a stage it was said that everyone was treated the same i.e. if your not at work then you get a stage period no favouritism etc. Yup total crap!

[BettySwollocks]

Does a medical condition still carry stage warning.

Of course, people here who've been diagnosed with Cancer have been given stages after taking time off for treatment.... broken legs etc etc I've NEVER EVER known a manager here to do anything other than issue the Stage.

Exactley .... a guy i used to work with (a Falklands veteran and a good guy) developed lung cancer, took time off for chemo, and eventually returned to a stage warning, he died not long after.
one other guy had a stroke, same again, stage warning.

[guvenor]

put in a motion for cwu to amend attdce procdre get someone to second it then as many names as possible
and ask for national motion on proposal

[General Mannerheim]

Does a medical condition still carry stage warning.

Of course, people here who've been diagnosed with Cancer have been given stages after taking time off for treatment.... broken legs etc etc I've NEVER EVER known a manager here to do anything other than issue the Stage.

Exactley .... a guy i used to work with (a Falklands veteran and a good guy) developed lung cancer, took time off for chemo, and eventually returned to a stage warning, he died not long after.
one other guy had a stroke, same again, stage warning.

Here is the management hymn sheet they all sing off.....: We believe all sicknes is genuine and we don't question the validity of it ...it's just the amount of time off you've had blah blah bullshit bullshit...nevermind it's only a stage 1/2 warning......but no you can't appeal against it.... I've looked at any mitigating circumstances(you know like your dad dying etc etc)and totally disregarded it as I like to bum upto the next higher manager up the food chain....what do you mean your putting in a grievance?????.

[clashcityrocker]

Does a medical condition still carry stage warning.

If you have a long-term condition you should be covered under the Disability Discrimination Act (now called the Equality Act I think)
Long-term means you have had the condition for 12 months and it will continue or has been diagnosed as likely to continue for more than 12 months.
This includes conditions such as diabetes, asthma. heart conditions, MS, etc. and all related absences. (For instance - UTI for diabetics)
A diagnosis of cancer is covered under the DDA immediately upon diagnosis. It would have to be a really stupid manager who started giving out stage warnings (and a really stupid rep who didn't question it)

So it depends on what your medical condition is. Your doctor should be able to tell you if you should be covered under the DDA.
Stage warnings should not be issued to people covered by the DDA but if they think you are having too much time off/taking the piss they can issue a stage but they have to tell you first that any more absences WILL be taken into account.

[fishtank]

Stage warnings should not be issued to people covered by the DDA but if they think you are having too much time off/taking the piss they can issue a stage but they have to tell you first that any more absences WILL be taken into account.

If your manager does decide to stage you once you have been assessed as dda "protected" you will normally find they has done this with the "help" of ATOS guidance on what is a reasonable amount of time off for your condition.
Immediately question this and get your own doctor/specialists guidance.
ATOS doctors are agenda led and it's not your well-being that's on the agenda.

[Tommase]

ATOS doctors are agenda led and it's not your well-being that's on the agenda.

[/quote]

Dont agree ! They have a job to do but its not to entrap someone who is ill or manifest lies ! Had lots of ATOS contact both telephone and face to face and they where the only people willing to help, nothing from RM ! They are there to get you back to work, if you dont wont to be at work .... well there's the issue

[cantbelieveit's...]

What if i had cancer and was treated with chemo and i was cured, would i still be covered under the DDA. Or what if the chemo has cleared the cancer but has now caused other problems such as sickness, which you continue to take tablets for to try and help stop the sickness am i still covered under DDA??
Thanks for any help

[TrueBlueTerrier]

What if i had cancer and was treated with chemo and i was cured, would i still be covered under the DDA. Or what if the chemo has cleared the cancer but has now caused other problems such as sickness, which you continue to take tablets for to try and help stop the sickness am i still covered under DDA??
Thanks for any help

The DDA is not dependant on what disease you have but that it is long term and affects your normal day to day life.

The definition of ‘disability’ under the Equality Act 2010

In the Act, a person has a disability if:

* they have a physical or mental impairment
* the impairment has a substantial and long-term adverse effect on their ability to perform normal day-to-day activities

For the purposes of the Act, these words have the following meanings:

* 'substantial' means more than minor or trivial
* 'long-term' means that the effect of the impairment has lasted or is likely to last for at least twelve months (there are special rules covering recurring or fluctuating conditions)
* 'normal day-to-day activities' include everyday things like eating, washing, walking and going shopping

People who have had a disability in the past that meets this definition are also protected by the Act.

[clashcityrocker]

What if i had cancer and was treated with chemo and i was cured, would i still be covered under the DDA.

I think you would.
It would be a very brave doctor who pronounced you "cured".
You might be in remission, but cancer by its very nature is not a curable illness.
Once you have been diagnosed with cancer you are covered and you remain covered by the DDA no matter how much better you get.

[post_bitch]

you get sacked for cancer