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it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
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windjunky
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it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
I informed my manager that I brought some mail back the other day, his reply was "gonna f***ing prep test you tomorrow then" (his exact words). Why, after 8 years, has my performance come under question all of a sudden? Should I apologise for the new revisions failing in my office..obviously it's all my fault. I wonder if he talks to his friends and family with the same contempt he talks to his staff? I'm quite surprised my manager can speak at all the way his tongue is permanently lodged up his own managers arse.
In normal society people with personality disorders get special needs help.. within royal mail they get promoted. Anyway.. he comes near me with a stop watch I'll have no option other than to claim bullying and harassment against him.
In normal society people with personality disorders get special needs help.. within royal mail they get promoted. Anyway.. he comes near me with a stop watch I'll have no option other than to claim bullying and harassment against him.
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BELIAL
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
Nice to know that management has wholeheartedly embraced the concept of dignity and respect at work

Bye
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bunkerland
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
One of our old managers once began a team briefing with this memorable line.
"Some o yous c***ts are taking the p*ss out o me"

"Some o yous c***ts are taking the p*ss out o me"
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
Incompetent Leaders will: Alternative Suggestion (RM Managers will)
1. Delegate work rather than balance work loads. This allows all attention to be diverted from them in case of failure. It may seem to them that are managing their people but in actuality they are creating work imbalances within the group. It can create unnecessary overtime for some and under utilization of others. A good manager is aware of the skill sets of all the people below them and should allocate work accordingly while trying to enhance the skills of everyone to be even more productive.
2. Reduce all answers to Yes or No rather than explaining their reasoning. This is an example of a crisis manager who can not think farther than a few hours ahead. A yes/no manager finds it a waste of time to find the real answer through intellectual thought. They are already thinking about the next crisis.
3. Not separate personal life from professional life. They will bring their personal problem to work. Working for these types of managers can be very dramatic. They are unable to separate their emotional imbalances while trying to manage people. They are less focused and will not give you the attention and direction you need for success.
4. Manage crisis. If you are a company that has crisis managers, then you can say goodbye to innovation and progression. Proactive thinking is critical to the success of any company. If you are not finding ways to stop or reduce the amount of crisis that has to be managed, then your competition will pass you by. Leaders have to think out of the box and make change.
5. Create an environment where mistakes are unacceptable. Being held accountable for wrong decisions is a fear for them. Making mistakes only helps you become a better person, manager, etc. I use the analogy of a basketball player that has no fouls. If they are not going for the ball and taking chances with their opponent, then they are trying hard enough. Take a chance and don’t be scared.
6. Humiliate or reprimand an employee within a group. This is a clear and visible sign of a poor leader. A good leader takes employee problems away from a group setting to a more private setting. If you have a boss that does this, it is time for a visit to human resources.
7. Not stand behind subordinates when they fail. Never leave your people to hang out to dry. Always back them up, right, wrong, or indifferent. If an employee tries their best in a situation and they fail to come through. They should be commended on their effort and not punished for the failure
8. Encourage hard workers not smart workers. I am not impressed with hard workers. A hard worker is usually defined by hours. Smart workers are the ones that I hire and embrace. Smart workers understand the concept of time management and multi-tasking. Poor leaders miss this connection. Smart workers are methodical in their thinking and can generally be successful because of their abilities management projects and time. Hard workers may take twice as long to do the work. It is important to assign work accordingly to the skills and personalities
9. Judge people on hours not performance. This is similar to #8. Again, I am not impressed with overtime junkies. They have lost all perspective on a healthy family/balance. Bad managers will promote the employees that work the most hours and not look at the smart ones who work less……….meaning have better time management. Stop watching the lock.
10. Act differently in front of their leaders. This is an indication of low self-confidence. They have doubts about their own ability to lead and they will act like little children when authority is present. A confident person acts the same around everyone. Remember, have respect for them, but also have self-respect.
1. Delegate work rather than balance work loads. This allows all attention to be diverted from them in case of failure. It may seem to them that are managing their people but in actuality they are creating work imbalances within the group. It can create unnecessary overtime for some and under utilization of others. A good manager is aware of the skill sets of all the people below them and should allocate work accordingly while trying to enhance the skills of everyone to be even more productive.
2. Reduce all answers to Yes or No rather than explaining their reasoning. This is an example of a crisis manager who can not think farther than a few hours ahead. A yes/no manager finds it a waste of time to find the real answer through intellectual thought. They are already thinking about the next crisis.
3. Not separate personal life from professional life. They will bring their personal problem to work. Working for these types of managers can be very dramatic. They are unable to separate their emotional imbalances while trying to manage people. They are less focused and will not give you the attention and direction you need for success.
4. Manage crisis. If you are a company that has crisis managers, then you can say goodbye to innovation and progression. Proactive thinking is critical to the success of any company. If you are not finding ways to stop or reduce the amount of crisis that has to be managed, then your competition will pass you by. Leaders have to think out of the box and make change.
5. Create an environment where mistakes are unacceptable. Being held accountable for wrong decisions is a fear for them. Making mistakes only helps you become a better person, manager, etc. I use the analogy of a basketball player that has no fouls. If they are not going for the ball and taking chances with their opponent, then they are trying hard enough. Take a chance and don’t be scared.
6. Humiliate or reprimand an employee within a group. This is a clear and visible sign of a poor leader. A good leader takes employee problems away from a group setting to a more private setting. If you have a boss that does this, it is time for a visit to human resources.
7. Not stand behind subordinates when they fail. Never leave your people to hang out to dry. Always back them up, right, wrong, or indifferent. If an employee tries their best in a situation and they fail to come through. They should be commended on their effort and not punished for the failure
8. Encourage hard workers not smart workers. I am not impressed with hard workers. A hard worker is usually defined by hours. Smart workers are the ones that I hire and embrace. Smart workers understand the concept of time management and multi-tasking. Poor leaders miss this connection. Smart workers are methodical in their thinking and can generally be successful because of their abilities management projects and time. Hard workers may take twice as long to do the work. It is important to assign work accordingly to the skills and personalities
9. Judge people on hours not performance. This is similar to #8. Again, I am not impressed with overtime junkies. They have lost all perspective on a healthy family/balance. Bad managers will promote the employees that work the most hours and not look at the smart ones who work less……….meaning have better time management. Stop watching the lock.
10. Act differently in front of their leaders. This is an indication of low self-confidence. They have doubts about their own ability to lead and they will act like little children when authority is present. A confident person acts the same around everyone. Remember, have respect for them, but also have self-respect.
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BELIAL
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
Bye
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Lincox
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
TB perhaps a copy of this could be slipped over to RM for the attention of M Higson to put in his ' New Year Things To Do' list
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taurus88
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
There's nothing wrong with delegating work, the problem is that delegating ought to involve the balancing of work loads at the same time as work is being delegated. Delegation is, in essence, the main purpose of a manager. In fact, in the purest sense, delegation IS the balancing of the work load, it is just that few in management seem to have cottoned on to this most basic of facts. I don't feel that this is a problem experienced exclusively within Royal Mail though. There are so many management positions and so many secondary and tertiary management positions that I think the whole management lark has become an effort, on behalf of these completely pointless tag-along managers, to try and justify themselves. More and more it seems that the arts of gentle persuasion, of a soft and encouraging touch, of fostering a healthy atmosphere in which morale is good, have been replaced by those darker arts; of bullying, of intimidation, and of fostering a miasma that settles upon the staff and saps all hope away. For some reason, Royal Mail seems to have accepted the latter as the superior option, ignoring the likely long-term effects of such a desperate and hideous environment. Even the cruellest of good (as in successful) leaders in the history of the world usually commanded the respect of their own troops. I guess it's hard to drive your men on when the only thing they're thinking about is jagging the knife in to your back!
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maisymoo04
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
windy i would of fu@@@ knocked the c@@@ out iv he spoke to me like that horrible tw@@ (soz about me swearin but who the hell our they talkin to, we put up with this stupid revision and he sits on his arse all mornin getin a bonus for gettin it in)windjunky wrote:I informed my manager that I brought some mail back the other day, his reply was "gonna f***ing prep test you tomorrow then" (his exact words). Why, after 8 years, has my performance come under question all of a sudden? Should I apologise for the new revisions failing in my office..obviously it's all my fault. I wonder if he talks to his friends and family with the same contempt he talks to his staff? I'm quite surprised my manager can speak at all the way his tongue is permanently lodged up his own managers arse.
In normal society people with personality disorders get special needs help.. within royal mail they get promoted. Anyway.. he comes near me with a stop watch I'll have no option other than to claim bullying and harassment against him.
"Some day I will have the bottle to take the money"
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belle smith
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
Are they prep testing people claiming extended?windjunky wrote:I informed my manager that I brought some mail back the other day, his reply was "gonna f***ing prep test you tomorrow then" (his exact words). Why, after 8 years, has my performance come under question all of a sudden? Should I apologise for the new revisions failing in my office..obviously it's all my fault. I wonder if he talks to his friends and family with the same contempt he talks to his staff? I'm quite surprised my manager can speak at all the way his tongue is permanently lodged up his own managers arse.
In normal society people with personality disorders get special needs help.. within royal mail they get promoted. Anyway.. he comes near me with a stop watch I'll have no option other than to claim bullying and harassment against him.
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skull
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
I know what you mean , pre revision I was a competent employee , it's coincidence that on the day revision started I decided to become lazy and totally incompetent at my job . Out of guilt I'm writing to Moya Greene CEO to express that I'm at fault and revision is the best thing since sliced breadwindjunky wrote:I informed my manager that I brought some mail back the other day, his reply was "gonna f***ing prep test you tomorrow then" (his exact words). Why, after 8 years, has my performance come under question all of a sudden? Should I apologise for the new revisions failing in my office..obviously it's all my fault. I wonder if he talks to his friends and family with the same contempt he talks to his staff? I'm quite surprised my manager can speak at all the way his tongue is permanently lodged up his own managers arse.
In normal society people with personality disorders get special needs help.. within royal mail they get promoted. Anyway.. he comes near me with a stop watch I'll have no option other than to claim bullying and harassment against him.
The people who set up this forum deserve a medal . Offices use to be vitually isolated and managers could feed you any bullsh*t and they use to get away with it , not anymore . Our manager has got is own ideas on modernisation and still tries to convince staff that you don't have to use the trolleys , you shouldn't take breaks , you can still use the grey pouch boxes and can still use private cars . He believes that performance testing is the ultimate threat and we should shudder in fear . I think he needs to start reading these forums and then he might realise how ridiculous he sounds .
There's still thousands of employees who aren't aware of this forum , please everyone point it out to them . Their not going to get the truth from The Courier .
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Grinder64
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
[quote="windjunky"] In normal society people with personality disorders get special needs help.. within royal mail they get promoted. [quote]
How true. A very sad indictment indeed...
How true. A very sad indictment indeed...
You do the work, they get the loot. The men with the smiles and the 3 piece suits.
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edwardo
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
i know how you feel but what do you expect from the lowest form of life ever to grace this planet ,never feel sorry for them or their family one thing that keeps me sane is that when i go home home and even out on delivery there are decent human beings on this planet , there are 3 of low life at my office in lanark 2 of whom are women ? but seriously what are the union doing can any rep come out from under there stone and reply waste of £3 a week
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youwot!!!!!
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
The people who set up this forum deserve a medal . Offices use to be vitually isolated and managers could feed you any bullsh*t and they use to get away with it , not anymore . Our manager has got is own ideas on modernisation and still tries to convince staff that you don't have to use the trolleys , you shouldn't take breaks , you can still use the grey pouch boxes and can still use private cars . He believes that performance testing is the ultimate threat and we should shudder in fear . I think he needs to start reading these forums and then he might realise how ridiculous he sounds .
There's still thousands of employees who aren't aware of this forum , please everyone point it out to them . Their not going to get the truth from The Courier .
i couldn't agree more.we may never agree with each other but at least we can try to inform other posties about issues around the country.
who the hell invests £2 billion into a servic and makes it worse?????????????
you really couldn't make it up!!!!!!!!!!!
you really couldn't make it up!!!!!!!!!!!
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postghost
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
Tell him you do not appreciate the fact that he swore at you and it is your right that you do not have to tolerate this language in any workplace.
Inform your union rep of the way the manager spoke to you asap.
Inform your union rep of the way the manager spoke to you asap.
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jockstrapp
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Re: it's all my fault.. sorry 'bout that
Then stick in a grievancepostghost wrote:Tell him you do not appreciate the fact that he swore at you and it is your right that you do not have to tolerate this language in any workplace.
Inform your union rep of the way the manager spoke to you asap.