The answers always no.

[jaylime]

Can somebody explain to me why i'm always given a flat no when asking for a day off.The answer is no even before the manager has even checked the availability.I asked for a day off today for my daughters first day at school in September,guess what the answer was.Yes it was a no,well Mr Manager you are a useless lying prick.I am so annoyed but i'm saying no more.

[Robbo318]

Sicky?

[jaylime]

Very hard to take a sicky when you asked for the day off.Im just going to cut off and go meet the mrs and daughter at school then go back to work.

[krussel]

This happened to me and to make it worse others seemed to get the odd days off they wanted. So I challenged our dom and got her to admit that it was because mine is a driving duty and more difficult to cover.

I stood my ground claiming I was being discriminated against and in the end I got my day off.

[fishtank]

Can somebody explain to me why i'm always given a flat no when asking for a day off.The answer is no even before the manager has even checked the availability.I asked for a day off today for my daughters first day at school in September,guess what the answer was.Yes it was a no,well Mr Manager you are a useless lying prick.I am so annoyed but i'm saying no more.

The next time they throw a flat no at you jaylime throw P&M2007 and summer staffing back at them...if we have to lapse we may as well get something back for it.

Enabler - Efficient Summer staffing - each Unit will utilise the opportunity offered by reduced traffic volumes to re-arrange responsibilities during the summer period. This will offer employees additional opportunities for leave during the same period.

Considerations and Suggested Activities
Jointly review seasonal traffic variations and assess forecast traffic volumes for the summer ahead. Jointly identify any employees wishing to take more leave in this period and maximise their opportunity to take leave by reviewing summer leave arrangements and realigning workload. Formally review the arrangements for the entire period at the end of the summer to influence the following year’s arrangements.

[Terry Butcher]

The shambolic leave system at Royal Mail is partly down to long standing full-timers unwillingness to have a change of scenery for a few weeks a year. If they were more flexible on what walks they could do then cover could be found more easilly and booking a days holiday wouldn't be the ordeal it is now. Newer staff and part-timers suffer because they cover each others holiday (and everyone elses), which more often than not is the left over scraps that nobody else wants.

The system is a joke, it needs a serious review because choosing annual leave should be a basic entitlement afforded to all staff, regardless of seniority or role within the company. As it is some staff get all the time they request to the detriment of other staff, it's not on

[wacko74]

The shambolic leave system at Royal Mail is partly down to long standing full-timers unwillingness to have a change of scenery for a few weeks a year. If they were more flexible on what walks they could do then cover could be found more easilly and booking a days holiday wouldn't be the ordeal it is now. Newer staff and part-timers suffer because they cover each others holiday (and everyone elses), which more often than not is the left over scraps that nobody else wants.

The system is a joke, it needs a serious review because choosing annual leave should be a basic entitlement afforded to all staff, regardless of seniority or role within the company. As it is some staff get all the time they request to the detriment of other staff, it's not on

Nothing what-so-ever to do with that...... its simply down to the fact that we're expected to operate with a skeleton staff with absoloutely no slack in the system.

[Terry Butcher]

The shambolic leave system at Royal Mail is partly down to long standing full-timers unwillingness to have a change of scenery for a few weeks a year. If they were more flexible on what walks they could do then cover could be found more easilly and booking a days holiday wouldn't be the ordeal it is now. Newer staff and part-timers suffer because they cover each others holiday (and everyone elses), which more often than not is the left over scraps that nobody else wants.

The system is a joke, it needs a serious review because choosing annual leave should be a basic entitlement afforded to all staff, regardless of seniority or role within the company. As it is some staff get all the time they request to the detriment of other staff, it's not on

Nothing what-so-ever to do with that...... its simply down to the fact that we're expected to operate with a skeleton staff with absoloutely no slack in the system.

Notice how i emphasised the word "partly"...I've lost count of the amount of times i (and others in a similar situation) have tried to negotiate a day off and been told "If you were on that walk you could have it, but it's (insert name here) walk". The regidity of walks "belonging" to certain staff has an obvious knock-on effect on the flexibility of the leave system, you can't not acknowledge it. But, yes, it's mainly to do with the overall lack of staff in the first place, like you say.

[REDLETTER]

Very hard to take a sicky when you asked for the day off.Im just going to cut off and go meet the mrs and daughter at school then go back to work.

If you get any hassle from your DIM, just say your daughter was too upset and was traumatized by the event of going to school, family emergency etc .............could lose your money but hey!

At least you have a kid to look after you when you're old and smelly! or you could buy a cat instead

[DGP1]

I thought this thread was about my wife

[Straight4ward]

jaylime, anyone in your office that you could swap with. We do this quite a bit in our's and it works pretty well.

- - - - - and DGP this also has nothing to do with your wife (sorry).

[AnotherLimey]

I go round and cover the day i need with people either on thier day off or part timers that need the hours, then go to the DOM and say i need this day off and have cover, sorted!

[Eric Cantona]

The Louder you shout in the office you get what you want, stand your ground with the managers and give them that stare, they don't like it, they feel threatened, another option is go in on the day keel over a box after you have been in 3 hours then say your going home pain in arm or leg etc, naff all they can do, it don't count as sick....
One guy in our office got a day off for his daughters play at school.

[DirtyHarry]

Nothing what-so-ever to do with that...... its simply down to the fact that we're expected to operate with a skeleton staff with absoloutely no slack in the system.

Spot on, wacko74.

[da'bunny]

ages ago i asked for a day off this october (which is available) i got told no u cant have a single day incase someone needs the whole week!